Me ~ Human consciousness appears to be in opposition to the unconscious aspect of nature and the universe. How is that problematic for the Christian and the problem of evil?
John ~ Immanuel Kant said that the mind does not conform to things, rather things conform to the mind. Why or How? It is through our conscious state of being. There is no other way that we know the world in which we exist. In our consciousness we observe and experience what is called sentient existence. That means that human conscious beings recognize that there are other things in the world which are not sentient. This causes a conflict in the mind as those things which are not sentient appear to posses immortality while sentient beings are mortal. This is the conflict in the human mind and yet it should not be so in the Christian mind.
Me ~ What do you mean?
John ~ The universe seems absurd until we understand that the absurdity was brought about because of our corruption by disobeying our Creator right from the start. Mortality seems absurd due to the fact that the universe seems pointless as a non-conscious entity and that is absurd. So, the absurdity of life is a struggle to us as to why we are aware of this. Why are we even able to think about the absurdity of the universe which itself seems like an absurd discussion or contemplation.
As convoluted as that answer is or appears to be, our consciousness appears to be outside of a greater whole 'reality' of what a full conscious being should be. Yes, that is what we are aware of and have been since the fall. That is why I say that such conflict should not exist in the Christian mind as having embraced Jesus Christ we have acknowledged that our consciousness here and now is a lie and that our real conscious being is yet to come and that is only possible through death to this world.
The problem of evil is also the problem of sin. Essentially, the problem of evil is the outcome of original sin. That being a thorn in our flesh as Paul saw it. It reminds us that the consciousness we have of/in this world is a lie. That lie being a non 'fully' consciousness. The lie is a veil, it is a pair of eyeglasses through which we try to understand our true being which is with our Creator in Paradise, a true reality as it is without sin, without evil.
Me ~ What is consciousness?
John ~ It is not that we are conscious of this world and our person as in by ourselves... We are conscious because He lives. Consciousness is God streaming information into us and through us. It is our choice to use that information for His glory! By doing so, our choice is for not only ourselves but our fellow man whose consciousness is also of Christ.
The Analyst
Being Brainy for God
Sunday, February 7, 2016
Sunday, January 31, 2016
Becoming like Christ and Ruling Over God's Creation!
Me ~ What is the destiny of the Christian?
John ~ Our destiny is before us. Reading the Bible, God's Word is where we learn what we must do. Jesus Christ was quite clear about our destiny when he said that we must follow Him giving up things of this world and even family as in putting God first~ Matthew 19:28. We must put God first (have no other God (s) before Me) and He must be first in our heart and our trust in God must be complete; and not worry about things or family as they are in His care. In this way, we can follow Him by trusting in God.
Me ~ But, how is that possible?
John ~ All things are possible in God. Paul reminded us that we must be strong in the Lord and in
his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand
against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the
spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” ~ Ephesians 6: 10-12.
Me ~ Is that how we become like Christ?
John ~ Yes, and remember that becoming we must take on that Armour and begin to lead a Christ filled life. Paul admonished the early church for suing each other in
court ~1 COR 6. He did so by reminding them that they would one day rule over
angels and God’s universe ~ 1 COR 6. Paul understood the Elohim were the divine
council (Psalm 82) made up of god-like created beings that were given authority
to administer and rule over Yaweh’s creation. However, at the end of the Flood
they were given authority to spread humankind across the planet. They failed to
do this and instead got mankind to worship them and keep them in one place and
make a religion and temple to them. God ended this crime by creating many languages
(Fall of the tower of Babel=Babylon) and then assigning each human language
group to be under the authority and to worship these Elohim. God then created a new human group that would
worship Him and to whom he would reveal himself. These became the Hebrews. The Elohim also considered angels as well as
demons and including foreign nations (1 Kgs 11:33, Deut 32:17, Sam 28:13, Gen
35:7) who disobeyed God were judged by him to one day die as men. So, the
end-game in all this is that Saved humanity
= those redeemed and brought back to God through
the Son (including those once under the Elohim known as ‘Gentiles’ and or all
in Christ, would one day replace these Elohim (Greek -kosmokrators * devils and
his demons, Lord of this world) and rule over the angels (as Paul told us [God speaking
through Paul]); including all Elohim ‘kosmokrators, and all God’s creation. So,
our destiny is to return to Paradise becoming like Christ to rule and
administer God’s creation.
Tuesday, January 26, 2016
New World Order ~ Nebuchadnezzar's Iron and Clay
Me ~ Is there a connection between the New World Order and Nebuchadnezzar's dream?
John ~ Yeah, the New World Order. It is the Old World Order trying to reestablish itself as the preeminent order of the world just as it was during the time of Nimrod and the first Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar's dream described a statue of five parts starting with the head of gold which represents the kingdom of Babylon during King Nebuchadnezzar's reign. The second section of this statue in his dream was the silver chest of arms which represented Persia which came after Babylon. Then came the waist of Greece which overthrew the Persian Empire. Then came the two legs of iron representing the Roman Empire in two parts/legs = East and West Roman Empire.
Finally, we have the two feet of iron mixed with clay each with 5 toes totally 10 toes which is the number of world rulers who will be in command of the final empire of this world's history. This final empire is the New World Order which we are seeing develop today around the world but namely in Europe and the Middle East and including in the United States. These ten rulers (ten toes on the statue) will give their authority to one individual (known by three different names: the beast, the anti-Christ and the man of sin) whose empire will be over thrown by a stone that will destroy the statue completely and grow to be a mountain which represents the Kingdom of God which will replace the kingdom 'rule' of man on earth.
Me ~ So, the iron and clay represent what? The rulers are the toes as you said, but why iron and clay.
John ~ Clay and iron do not mix, they do not create a strong substance. Iron is strong and clay is brittle. Not only do we have one portion being strong we have one being weak combined into a single empire. The second thing is that they 'toes' are the evolution of the legs. The final empire is also the Roman Empire which is iron in the toes mixing with clay in the last days. The clay could be socialism vs capitalism (iron), Muslims vs. Christians (iron), or perhaps different ethnicities pitted against each other in Europe, or other Middle Easterners vs Europeans and lastly, the iron and clay could represent the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman which would be in opposition in the last days represented in two political entities competing to control the New World Order and be the final world government.
However, the problem with that final theory is that the legs of iron only represent the Roman Empire so why are the feet of iron mixed with clay and where does the clay come from. It has to be fundamental to the nature of the Roman Empire which had a strong nature. So, something comes into weaken the iron which is the clay. Two entirely separate peoples are mingling in this new empire which would be Islam vs. Christianity.
Me ~ Could it also be that the seed of the serpent is technology and the woman is mankind? These two don't mix and yet we see a desire to combine as in mix these two together.
John ~ That is certainly a possibility based on the direction and speed which trans-humanism is taking over mankind. Trans-humanism being the technology that is on the horizon as we observe with gene manipulation and technological enhancements that are supposed to make us safer, smarter and live longer as well as bringing ease of living when it comes to everyday life transactions and routines.
Me~ Does that in anyway tie into the New World Order?
John ~ Absolutely, the New World Order as it is the feet and toes described above especially if we consider the New World order having the agenda to be like Old World Order - Babylon. It is the last global empire whose agenda is like that of old world order where all people were on the same page, talking the same language, having the same religion and same money or monetary or merit system and the same government. Certainly, that kind of technology 'trans-humanism' would make it much easier to organize and manage. Finally, it must be said that this final world empire that will have a devastating affect on Israel.
The question is, how will it manifest itself? The Bible calls the New World Order - Mystery Babylon. And, I am not sure how that will happen. It could be due to war (s) or the unification of Europe with the Islamic Caliphate of the Middle East, at least this would be in keeping with the statue whereby the legs of the statue represent the Roman Empire.
John ~ Yeah, the New World Order. It is the Old World Order trying to reestablish itself as the preeminent order of the world just as it was during the time of Nimrod and the first Babylon. Nebuchadnezzar's dream described a statue of five parts starting with the head of gold which represents the kingdom of Babylon during King Nebuchadnezzar's reign. The second section of this statue in his dream was the silver chest of arms which represented Persia which came after Babylon. Then came the waist of Greece which overthrew the Persian Empire. Then came the two legs of iron representing the Roman Empire in two parts/legs = East and West Roman Empire.
Finally, we have the two feet of iron mixed with clay each with 5 toes totally 10 toes which is the number of world rulers who will be in command of the final empire of this world's history. This final empire is the New World Order which we are seeing develop today around the world but namely in Europe and the Middle East and including in the United States. These ten rulers (ten toes on the statue) will give their authority to one individual (known by three different names: the beast, the anti-Christ and the man of sin) whose empire will be over thrown by a stone that will destroy the statue completely and grow to be a mountain which represents the Kingdom of God which will replace the kingdom 'rule' of man on earth.
Me ~ So, the iron and clay represent what? The rulers are the toes as you said, but why iron and clay.
John ~ Clay and iron do not mix, they do not create a strong substance. Iron is strong and clay is brittle. Not only do we have one portion being strong we have one being weak combined into a single empire. The second thing is that they 'toes' are the evolution of the legs. The final empire is also the Roman Empire which is iron in the toes mixing with clay in the last days. The clay could be socialism vs capitalism (iron), Muslims vs. Christians (iron), or perhaps different ethnicities pitted against each other in Europe, or other Middle Easterners vs Europeans and lastly, the iron and clay could represent the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman which would be in opposition in the last days represented in two political entities competing to control the New World Order and be the final world government.
However, the problem with that final theory is that the legs of iron only represent the Roman Empire so why are the feet of iron mixed with clay and where does the clay come from. It has to be fundamental to the nature of the Roman Empire which had a strong nature. So, something comes into weaken the iron which is the clay. Two entirely separate peoples are mingling in this new empire which would be Islam vs. Christianity.
Me ~ Could it also be that the seed of the serpent is technology and the woman is mankind? These two don't mix and yet we see a desire to combine as in mix these two together.
John ~ That is certainly a possibility based on the direction and speed which trans-humanism is taking over mankind. Trans-humanism being the technology that is on the horizon as we observe with gene manipulation and technological enhancements that are supposed to make us safer, smarter and live longer as well as bringing ease of living when it comes to everyday life transactions and routines.
Me~ Does that in anyway tie into the New World Order?
John ~ Absolutely, the New World Order as it is the feet and toes described above especially if we consider the New World order having the agenda to be like Old World Order - Babylon. It is the last global empire whose agenda is like that of old world order where all people were on the same page, talking the same language, having the same religion and same money or monetary or merit system and the same government. Certainly, that kind of technology 'trans-humanism' would make it much easier to organize and manage. Finally, it must be said that this final world empire that will have a devastating affect on Israel.
The question is, how will it manifest itself? The Bible calls the New World Order - Mystery Babylon. And, I am not sure how that will happen. It could be due to war (s) or the unification of Europe with the Islamic Caliphate of the Middle East, at least this would be in keeping with the statue whereby the legs of the statue represent the Roman Empire.
Thursday, January 14, 2016
Non Nuclear Family ~ The result of people who think they know more than God.
Me ~ You hear and read more and more about non nuclear families as in families recreating themselves. Not just new mommies and daddies but a few of each or one of each of the same sex. Family in terms of definition or composition seems to be a hot topic today. So, what is the harm of the non nuclear family?
John ~ Firstly, God is the Creator of Heaven and Earth of all things seen and unseen. If you don't believe that, then you will not appreciate where I am going to go with my answer. God's design whether we like it or not, or agree with it or not is incredibly intrinsically complex and connected and that includes man place in it. I could say the same even talking as a nature loving humanist. But, I am not. I am a God fearing God loving God created man. So, what can we expect when we play God?
The harm....we will be creating imbalances throughout God's design. Yes, you could argue that isn't this a fallen world and these new ideas about family are reflective of that fallen world. Of course, they are. But, that does not mean we should pursue them in our sinful fallen nature in this fallen world. I know that there are many even educated people who believe in a Creator God and yet they also think that He has nothing to do with our lives in this world. Our fallen world makes it seem like God does not care, but that is not the case.
I know that argument put forward by Spinoza (even adopted by Einstein)... he illustrated it by saying that a if a circle believed in a God, its God would be a circle. That all created things imagine their God to be like them/what they are but that their creator is outside of their being. In that case, since man is God's creation, he believes God to look and be like him. In that sense, man already has a relationship with his Creator and that relationship can be furthered. So, yes, we can have a relationship with our Creator. Now, I am going off track and need to answer the question about recreating the nuclear family.
Though, we have been given a free will, we are called as Christians to submit to our Creator's will. Why? Because, he knows the best for us in this fallen world and He will lovingly give to us what we need if we just let Him, trust and rest in Him. We have to also acknowledge that the Bible is the Word of God, His instructions for us in this fallen world are written there. By following the Bible, we come closer to His will for us and what is best for us and realize that there is more than this fallen world, which He promises us.
So, you see, by creating a non nuclear family, we are opening a Pandora's box to destruction. Someone said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Again, a non nuclear family will cause imbalances. These imbalances can crumble an entire system. We see this in nature when we remove an important part of the ecosystem i.e. removing wolves, which has taken generations to see the negative results but they are there.
The single mom problem has caused this kind of imbalance in society with men growing up thinking that they are women. If you are going to start designing your own families you will be creating imbalances that may cause humanity to become not worth saving or impossible to save. Of course, we know that in end times, it will be like in the days of Noah or moving up in time like Lot in Sodom. So, maybe there will be one family left worth saving or at least ten.
When we interfere with nature, we end up creating imbalances. We move things around and then one species takes over and we have to shot them as they take over. Even with quite visible failures, we still think we can do it right ...this time. We are messing with mankind's future. We are endangering humanity.
Believe me, I do feel for people who cannot conceive or suffer through bad marriages. But, that does not mean we have the right to usurp God's authority. We were destined for a specific order. We are not smart enough (God's mind is incomparably greater) and therefore, we don't know enough to play dice with ordered systems. We think we know better but we don't. We should learn from the past, the far past- read Genesis!
John ~ Firstly, God is the Creator of Heaven and Earth of all things seen and unseen. If you don't believe that, then you will not appreciate where I am going to go with my answer. God's design whether we like it or not, or agree with it or not is incredibly intrinsically complex and connected and that includes man place in it. I could say the same even talking as a nature loving humanist. But, I am not. I am a God fearing God loving God created man. So, what can we expect when we play God?
The harm....we will be creating imbalances throughout God's design. Yes, you could argue that isn't this a fallen world and these new ideas about family are reflective of that fallen world. Of course, they are. But, that does not mean we should pursue them in our sinful fallen nature in this fallen world. I know that there are many even educated people who believe in a Creator God and yet they also think that He has nothing to do with our lives in this world. Our fallen world makes it seem like God does not care, but that is not the case.
I know that argument put forward by Spinoza (even adopted by Einstein)... he illustrated it by saying that a if a circle believed in a God, its God would be a circle. That all created things imagine their God to be like them/what they are but that their creator is outside of their being. In that case, since man is God's creation, he believes God to look and be like him. In that sense, man already has a relationship with his Creator and that relationship can be furthered. So, yes, we can have a relationship with our Creator. Now, I am going off track and need to answer the question about recreating the nuclear family.
Though, we have been given a free will, we are called as Christians to submit to our Creator's will. Why? Because, he knows the best for us in this fallen world and He will lovingly give to us what we need if we just let Him, trust and rest in Him. We have to also acknowledge that the Bible is the Word of God, His instructions for us in this fallen world are written there. By following the Bible, we come closer to His will for us and what is best for us and realize that there is more than this fallen world, which He promises us.
So, you see, by creating a non nuclear family, we are opening a Pandora's box to destruction. Someone said, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Again, a non nuclear family will cause imbalances. These imbalances can crumble an entire system. We see this in nature when we remove an important part of the ecosystem i.e. removing wolves, which has taken generations to see the negative results but they are there.
The single mom problem has caused this kind of imbalance in society with men growing up thinking that they are women. If you are going to start designing your own families you will be creating imbalances that may cause humanity to become not worth saving or impossible to save. Of course, we know that in end times, it will be like in the days of Noah or moving up in time like Lot in Sodom. So, maybe there will be one family left worth saving or at least ten.
When we interfere with nature, we end up creating imbalances. We move things around and then one species takes over and we have to shot them as they take over. Even with quite visible failures, we still think we can do it right ...this time. We are messing with mankind's future. We are endangering humanity.
Believe me, I do feel for people who cannot conceive or suffer through bad marriages. But, that does not mean we have the right to usurp God's authority. We were destined for a specific order. We are not smart enough (God's mind is incomparably greater) and therefore, we don't know enough to play dice with ordered systems. We think we know better but we don't. We should learn from the past, the far past- read Genesis!
Sunday, January 10, 2016
Man trying to be God!
Me ~ It seems to me that man is always trying to be God. He/she thinks that if we just have the right law, or pay people enough money for the job they do, they will be nice, they will behave and the world will be a better place. Why is that impossible?
John ~ You see, the first problem that most people don't recognize is that this is a fallen world. Man cannot be good no matter how many laws or how much money for whatever job they do- doctor or broom pusher.
Laws nor money can make people be nice or behave. Embracing the Creator, the Lord God Jesus Christ is the only way back to 'paradise'.
Me ~ Yes, I see. But, what about man's idea that socialism would be a better way to some kind of paradise on earth. And, certainly technology is improving the way we live, right?
John ~ Socialism is just that... a man made idea. You see, there is a man at the top of that social hierarchy too. There is always someone a man/woman at the top of the social hierarchy here in this fallen world. The irony is that even if men/women do not put that person in such a place 'at the top' they will get there by force or by their attractive charisma. How? They make promises to change things. And, they say it in the plural form 'we'. The problem with full blown socialism which is actually communism is that someone other than 'you or me' is calling the shots for everyone and yet making it appear that we did it together.
Now, I don't know about you but I would rather make my own decisions or as free as possible decisions based on a freedom loving social contract that gives me and you as much freedom to make our own choices as the next guy. So... why wouldn't someone in a full blown socialism 'communism' where everybody so called works together make something for me first let alone a paradise for me? Because, they are too busy making a paradise for those at the top first who cloak their agenda in 'we can do it'; and then, the 'someone' or guy makes something or does something for me or the guy next to them if they have enough time and energy left. And, what about that guy or the next guy, right? Would he/she be happy with the service provided by the guy next to them? Well, he/she should be proud after all they are 'we' and 'we can do it'.
Yes, that is what it would be like for you and me as we. As we ... we would be involved in doing services or serving our fellow man in every instance before ourselves. Now, you might say... isn't that Christian? Yes, but such a service minded Christian person does it because he/she is filled with the Holy Spirit not because there is a man made law that forces you to do it.
Me ~ You did not mention technology. Wouldn't technology be able to provide for all people... give everyone what they want when they need it.
John ~ Yes and No. Yes, technology is making more lives easy but that does not mean better. A lot of people are losing their jobs because of technology. I don't think that technology can give 300 million+ people (US pop.) what they want when they want it. Who would be in charge of that kind of distribution? And, now we are back to the communist social hierarchy 'model' as I already mentioned. It could be based on merit as is full blown socialism. That means who works the most for the state is the most deserving. Perhaps those that develop the technology would be the most deserving; after all, they created it (no not everyone created it not everyone has a PhD from MIT) and thus as the creators deemed the 'smart' people or 'necessary' for the time being until they are replaced by technology would get first dibs.
Now, do you think that government or some 'technology' controlled by government would know what is best for you at any moment let alone the moment when you need something... and remember the government is made up of sinful men/women... ? Those at the top will serve themselves first and do it according to the law.
Stop looking to a malevolent entity! Look to one that is all benevolent - Jesus Christ!!!!
Me ~ AMEN AMEN AMEN!
John ~ You see, the first problem that most people don't recognize is that this is a fallen world. Man cannot be good no matter how many laws or how much money for whatever job they do- doctor or broom pusher.
Laws nor money can make people be nice or behave. Embracing the Creator, the Lord God Jesus Christ is the only way back to 'paradise'.
Me ~ Yes, I see. But, what about man's idea that socialism would be a better way to some kind of paradise on earth. And, certainly technology is improving the way we live, right?
John ~ Socialism is just that... a man made idea. You see, there is a man at the top of that social hierarchy too. There is always someone a man/woman at the top of the social hierarchy here in this fallen world. The irony is that even if men/women do not put that person in such a place 'at the top' they will get there by force or by their attractive charisma. How? They make promises to change things. And, they say it in the plural form 'we'. The problem with full blown socialism which is actually communism is that someone other than 'you or me' is calling the shots for everyone and yet making it appear that we did it together.
Now, I don't know about you but I would rather make my own decisions or as free as possible decisions based on a freedom loving social contract that gives me and you as much freedom to make our own choices as the next guy. So... why wouldn't someone in a full blown socialism 'communism' where everybody so called works together make something for me first let alone a paradise for me? Because, they are too busy making a paradise for those at the top first who cloak their agenda in 'we can do it'; and then, the 'someone' or guy makes something or does something for me or the guy next to them if they have enough time and energy left. And, what about that guy or the next guy, right? Would he/she be happy with the service provided by the guy next to them? Well, he/she should be proud after all they are 'we' and 'we can do it'.
Yes, that is what it would be like for you and me as we. As we ... we would be involved in doing services or serving our fellow man in every instance before ourselves. Now, you might say... isn't that Christian? Yes, but such a service minded Christian person does it because he/she is filled with the Holy Spirit not because there is a man made law that forces you to do it.
Me ~ You did not mention technology. Wouldn't technology be able to provide for all people... give everyone what they want when they need it.
John ~ Yes and No. Yes, technology is making more lives easy but that does not mean better. A lot of people are losing their jobs because of technology. I don't think that technology can give 300 million+ people (US pop.) what they want when they want it. Who would be in charge of that kind of distribution? And, now we are back to the communist social hierarchy 'model' as I already mentioned. It could be based on merit as is full blown socialism. That means who works the most for the state is the most deserving. Perhaps those that develop the technology would be the most deserving; after all, they created it (no not everyone created it not everyone has a PhD from MIT) and thus as the creators deemed the 'smart' people or 'necessary' for the time being until they are replaced by technology would get first dibs.
Now, do you think that government or some 'technology' controlled by government would know what is best for you at any moment let alone the moment when you need something... and remember the government is made up of sinful men/women... ? Those at the top will serve themselves first and do it according to the law.
Stop looking to a malevolent entity! Look to one that is all benevolent - Jesus Christ!!!!
Me ~ AMEN AMEN AMEN!
Monday, December 21, 2015
We don't imagine God ~ He imagines us!
Me ~ What does that mean?
John ~ Scientists make fun of the fact that we who believe in God actually do think that 'something' came from 'something'; whereas, they believe that something came from nothing. I at least believe that we came from something and that being is someOne who is the Creator of Heaven and Earth of all things seen and unseen. Yet, they believe we came from nothing. How crazy is that? Which world view is the crazy one? Simplicity cannot create complexity. Only complexity can create complexity. There is no evidence anywhere in nature or our social reality that from something simple came something complex. In fact, the tiniest cell is incredibly complex. Human beings cannot re-create life. Why? It is too complex.
Me ~ I agree, but some say that we came from something and that something is a complex cosmic gas.
John ~ If that were true, then who created complex cosmic gas. Its a rabbit hole for atheists. They stand on the premise that from non living chemistry came living complexity. They don't and can't explain why. I can answer that. "From things that are unseen came things that are" Hebrews 11. Atheists also like to advocate that the universe came from another universe; but all that does is keep kicking the can down the road. They ask... when did the universe begin? Before a Christan can answer that for them, they blurt out - at the Big Bang and that one moment was a singularity event. I say, I don't disagree. God is His complex creativity can point his finger and a Big Bang event occurred. "Let there be Light"~ Genesis.
Me ~ I've heard the argument that we cannot understand the cosmos because it is bigger than we are.
John ~ I say the same, we cannot understand God (an incredibly complex being) because He is bigger than we are; in fact, outside of our time/space dimension. They argue that they can observe and understand the cosmos as in that observation know how the cosmos came to be. I can say the same. I can see and understand God just by looking at His creation - the cosmos and all life and all things in it.
The argument goes on as they continue to say things like "well you cannot know God". They say that the cosmos is knowable. Really? I can say the same thing - God is knowable. They say how? I say because he made you. He made man in His image. I agree that I cannot know everything about him because he is bigger than me. But because He our creator, we can know of Him and because of Him we exist even though God is outside of our experience of space and time, He is the sum of everything in it.
He is eternal. Though, a person as a 'thing' here and now in this time/space cannot be eternal does not mean that in Him we are not. Even science (what I like to call what God allows us to understand) as practiced here and now tells us that things have properties that are finite, things decay. The universe is in a state of decay - degradation. The universe follows science - the laws of cause and effect. God is a Creator. He caused man and the universe. Something cannot arise from nothing.
Me ~ I agree but the rebuttal will be that God then has a cause.
John ~ Back in the 1700s, people thought that flies came from garbage. A fly is not the same as trash. Is that any different than imagining a human being from a single cell organism? Both are not true but they can appear that way. Simple things do not come from things less complex. Yet, most atheists say that man came from nothing as that which they are not yet fully capable of understanding. I say we came from something and when the time is right, when God allows, we will fully understand the creator. Scientists of all kinds including mathematicians try very hard to find other ways to explain how something comes from nothing. They can put x in a equation to represent that which they do not yet understand. I don't disagree. X = God and God is x.
As for God having a cause. For those that are not creationists, their best outlet is to say that there is a bubble, one universe inside another. They don't want to confess, they don't want to admit that an intelligence greater than they are can be an un-created being - the first thing and the last ~ The Alpha and The Omega!
Its logical.
“What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived”— the things God has prepared for those who love him— these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words". 2 Corinthians 2:9-13
John ~ Scientists make fun of the fact that we who believe in God actually do think that 'something' came from 'something'; whereas, they believe that something came from nothing. I at least believe that we came from something and that being is someOne who is the Creator of Heaven and Earth of all things seen and unseen. Yet, they believe we came from nothing. How crazy is that? Which world view is the crazy one? Simplicity cannot create complexity. Only complexity can create complexity. There is no evidence anywhere in nature or our social reality that from something simple came something complex. In fact, the tiniest cell is incredibly complex. Human beings cannot re-create life. Why? It is too complex.
Me ~ I agree, but some say that we came from something and that something is a complex cosmic gas.
John ~ If that were true, then who created complex cosmic gas. Its a rabbit hole for atheists. They stand on the premise that from non living chemistry came living complexity. They don't and can't explain why. I can answer that. "From things that are unseen came things that are" Hebrews 11. Atheists also like to advocate that the universe came from another universe; but all that does is keep kicking the can down the road. They ask... when did the universe begin? Before a Christan can answer that for them, they blurt out - at the Big Bang and that one moment was a singularity event. I say, I don't disagree. God is His complex creativity can point his finger and a Big Bang event occurred. "Let there be Light"~ Genesis.
Me ~ I've heard the argument that we cannot understand the cosmos because it is bigger than we are.
John ~ I say the same, we cannot understand God (an incredibly complex being) because He is bigger than we are; in fact, outside of our time/space dimension. They argue that they can observe and understand the cosmos as in that observation know how the cosmos came to be. I can say the same. I can see and understand God just by looking at His creation - the cosmos and all life and all things in it.
The argument goes on as they continue to say things like "well you cannot know God". They say that the cosmos is knowable. Really? I can say the same thing - God is knowable. They say how? I say because he made you. He made man in His image. I agree that I cannot know everything about him because he is bigger than me. But because He our creator, we can know of Him and because of Him we exist even though God is outside of our experience of space and time, He is the sum of everything in it.
He is eternal. Though, a person as a 'thing' here and now in this time/space cannot be eternal does not mean that in Him we are not. Even science (what I like to call what God allows us to understand) as practiced here and now tells us that things have properties that are finite, things decay. The universe is in a state of decay - degradation. The universe follows science - the laws of cause and effect. God is a Creator. He caused man and the universe. Something cannot arise from nothing.
Me ~ I agree but the rebuttal will be that God then has a cause.
John ~ Back in the 1700s, people thought that flies came from garbage. A fly is not the same as trash. Is that any different than imagining a human being from a single cell organism? Both are not true but they can appear that way. Simple things do not come from things less complex. Yet, most atheists say that man came from nothing as that which they are not yet fully capable of understanding. I say we came from something and when the time is right, when God allows, we will fully understand the creator. Scientists of all kinds including mathematicians try very hard to find other ways to explain how something comes from nothing. They can put x in a equation to represent that which they do not yet understand. I don't disagree. X = God and God is x.
As for God having a cause. For those that are not creationists, their best outlet is to say that there is a bubble, one universe inside another. They don't want to confess, they don't want to admit that an intelligence greater than they are can be an un-created being - the first thing and the last ~ The Alpha and The Omega!
Its logical.
“What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived”— the things God has prepared for those who love him— these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us.This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words". 2 Corinthians 2:9-13
Sunday, December 13, 2015
The Great Deception!
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come
unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed,
the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every
so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the
temple of God, displaying himself as being God ~ 2 Th 2:3-5.
Me ~ What is the great deception?
John ~ The great deception is the greatest lie ever told and it will be told by the Anti-Christ.
Me ~ What is the lie?
John ~ The greatest lie is that we don't need a savior nor redeemer and we can become gods ourselves. We can find a way on our own to save ourselves spiritually and physically.
Me ~ How did Jesus prepare us to recognize the lie.
John ~ When Jesus came here he gave proof that He was God by the things He did and said that were prophesied thousands of years before Him. He became the sacrifice to take away our sin and give us eternal life. And, he promised to give us God's spirit as evidence that we are now reborn into God's kingdom. Having this spirit in us gives us discernment to recognize the truth from the lie.
Jesus's life and death on earth was to reveal to us that death is lie. He came to tell us that our real life is not in this fallen fleshly world. Since the fall, we now live in a sinful corrupt world, death is the result of sin in the world. Through His death and our death we overcome the world of sin. In that overcoming, we are born of the spirit and with that and in that given eternal life. This promise, was in fact, the first demonstrated to us in the experience of Abraham who was willing to sacrifice his son Issac.
Me ~ If you saying that is death is a lie, then why will the Anti-Christ tell us this if Jesus Christ already did?
John ~ The difference is that the Anti-Christ is going to tell us that we don't need God for eternal life, we just need him and our own technology.The Anti-Christ will tell us that this place is the 'real place' and that death is a lie and that he is God wants does not want not to die but to live and worship him. To accomplish this, all we have to do is use the technology he has given us; for instance, technology to create new DNA, to take the mark of our new creation. That is the lie.
Me ~ Are we being set up for this Anti-Christ and his false promise even now?
John ~ Yes. We see this new generation completely subservient to this very new technology, fully trusting it and those behind it. They are completely unaware that their humanity and freedom are being stolen from them. They are being indoctrinated in simple and naive ways by ungodly men and women. Firstly, they have accepted demonic images, devils and magic as normal. They have accepted tattoos as normal and they have accepted technology as friendly; living in their virtual fb/twitter worlds. They have accepted lies about homosexuality and that the environment is a living 'mother' spirit. They have accepted the idea that they are their own god and life is all about them and that they are entitled to think that way. There has never been a generation in all of human history so prepared to be deceived as the new millennials.
Me ~ What is the future going to be like for those (including all ages) not being deceived?
John ~ It is going to be dangerous. Because the deception is going to be so wide spread and accepted by the majority. It is going to make it difficult to have and keep a job and be a part of the culture and society. In Rev. chapter 13 we read that those who do not take the mark will not be able to buy or sell. Essentially, living in a world sold out to deception will be a perilous as Jesus said it would be. But perilous in so far as our bodies can be killed, but Thank God in Jesus Christ we have eternal life and we should not be afraid.
I know that from God's own word, He will provide for us and protest us and use us for His glory and we will inherit everything once He has cleaned this mess up. So, for the longer range forecast, for those who are not deceived, the future will be utterly incredibly wonderful. "Blessed on are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." Rev. 14:13. " He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain for the old order of things has passed away." Rev. 21:5. While the future for those deceived, the future is going to be incredibly horrifying. ..."for during those days (men who have the mark of the beast and not the seal of God on their foreheads), they will seek death, (they will want to die) but death will elude them". Rev. 9
Know that we are in the kingdom now (Colossians 1:13), but there is a more glorious phase to yet be entered (2 Peter 1:11). We enjoy salvation presently (Mark 16:16), but there is a greater dimension, a heavenly salvation, to be received at death (2 Timothy 4:18). There is a sense in which we are with Christ now (Matthew 18:20; 26:29; 28:20), but there is a more exalted state in which we will be with him ultimately (Philippians 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:8).
Me ~ What is the great deception?
John ~ The great deception is the greatest lie ever told and it will be told by the Anti-Christ.
Me ~ What is the lie?
John ~ The greatest lie is that we don't need a savior nor redeemer and we can become gods ourselves. We can find a way on our own to save ourselves spiritually and physically.
Me ~ How did Jesus prepare us to recognize the lie.
John ~ When Jesus came here he gave proof that He was God by the things He did and said that were prophesied thousands of years before Him. He became the sacrifice to take away our sin and give us eternal life. And, he promised to give us God's spirit as evidence that we are now reborn into God's kingdom. Having this spirit in us gives us discernment to recognize the truth from the lie.
Jesus's life and death on earth was to reveal to us that death is lie. He came to tell us that our real life is not in this fallen fleshly world. Since the fall, we now live in a sinful corrupt world, death is the result of sin in the world. Through His death and our death we overcome the world of sin. In that overcoming, we are born of the spirit and with that and in that given eternal life. This promise, was in fact, the first demonstrated to us in the experience of Abraham who was willing to sacrifice his son Issac.
Me ~ If you saying that is death is a lie, then why will the Anti-Christ tell us this if Jesus Christ already did?
John ~ The difference is that the Anti-Christ is going to tell us that we don't need God for eternal life, we just need him and our own technology.The Anti-Christ will tell us that this place is the 'real place' and that death is a lie and that he is God wants does not want not to die but to live and worship him. To accomplish this, all we have to do is use the technology he has given us; for instance, technology to create new DNA, to take the mark of our new creation. That is the lie.
Me ~ Are we being set up for this Anti-Christ and his false promise even now?
John ~ Yes. We see this new generation completely subservient to this very new technology, fully trusting it and those behind it. They are completely unaware that their humanity and freedom are being stolen from them. They are being indoctrinated in simple and naive ways by ungodly men and women. Firstly, they have accepted demonic images, devils and magic as normal. They have accepted tattoos as normal and they have accepted technology as friendly; living in their virtual fb/twitter worlds. They have accepted lies about homosexuality and that the environment is a living 'mother' spirit. They have accepted the idea that they are their own god and life is all about them and that they are entitled to think that way. There has never been a generation in all of human history so prepared to be deceived as the new millennials.
Me ~ What is the future going to be like for those (including all ages) not being deceived?
John ~ It is going to be dangerous. Because the deception is going to be so wide spread and accepted by the majority. It is going to make it difficult to have and keep a job and be a part of the culture and society. In Rev. chapter 13 we read that those who do not take the mark will not be able to buy or sell. Essentially, living in a world sold out to deception will be a perilous as Jesus said it would be. But perilous in so far as our bodies can be killed, but Thank God in Jesus Christ we have eternal life and we should not be afraid.
I know that from God's own word, He will provide for us and protest us and use us for His glory and we will inherit everything once He has cleaned this mess up. So, for the longer range forecast, for those who are not deceived, the future will be utterly incredibly wonderful. "Blessed on are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." Rev. 14:13. " He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain for the old order of things has passed away." Rev. 21:5. While the future for those deceived, the future is going to be incredibly horrifying. ..."for during those days (men who have the mark of the beast and not the seal of God on their foreheads), they will seek death, (they will want to die) but death will elude them". Rev. 9
Know that we are in the kingdom now (Colossians 1:13), but there is a more glorious phase to yet be entered (2 Peter 1:11). We enjoy salvation presently (Mark 16:16), but there is a greater dimension, a heavenly salvation, to be received at death (2 Timothy 4:18). There is a sense in which we are with Christ now (Matthew 18:20; 26:29; 28:20), but there is a more exalted state in which we will be with him ultimately (Philippians 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:8).
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