Me ~ What does that mean?
John ~ Scientists make fun of the fact that we who believe in God actually do think that 'something' came from 'something'; whereas, they believe that something came from nothing. I at least believe that we came from something and that being is someOne who is the Creator of Heaven and Earth of all things seen and unseen. Yet, they believe we came from nothing. How crazy is that? Which world view is the crazy one? Simplicity cannot create complexity. Only complexity can create complexity. There is no evidence anywhere in nature or our social reality that from something simple came something complex. In fact, the tiniest cell is incredibly complex. Human beings cannot re-create life. Why? It is too complex.
Me ~ I agree, but some say that we came from something and that something is a complex cosmic gas.
John ~ If that were true, then who created complex cosmic gas. Its a rabbit hole for atheists. They stand on the premise that from non living chemistry came living complexity. They don't and can't explain why. I can answer that. "From things that are unseen came things that are" Hebrews 11. Atheists also like to advocate that the universe came from another universe; but all that does is keep kicking the can down the road. They ask... when did the universe begin? Before a Christan can answer that for them, they blurt out - at the Big Bang and that one moment was a singularity event. I say, I don't disagree. God is His complex creativity can point his finger and a Big Bang event occurred. "Let there be Light"~ Genesis.
Me ~ I've heard the argument that we cannot understand the cosmos because it is bigger than we are.
John ~ I say the same, we cannot understand God (an incredibly complex being) because He is bigger than we are; in fact, outside of our time/space dimension. They argue that they can observe and understand the cosmos as in that observation know how the cosmos came to be. I can say the same. I can see and understand God just by looking at His creation - the cosmos and all life and all things in it.
The argument goes on as they continue to say things like "well you cannot know God". They say that the cosmos is knowable. Really? I can say the same thing - God is knowable. They say how? I say because he made you. He made man in His image. I agree that I cannot know everything about him because he is bigger than me. But because He our creator, we can know of Him and because of Him we exist even though God is
outside of our experience of space and time, He is the sum of everything in it.
He is eternal. Though, a person as a 'thing' here and now in this time/space cannot be eternal does not mean that in Him we are not. Even science (what I like to call what God allows us to understand) as practiced here and now tells us that things have properties that are
finite, things decay. The universe is in a state of decay - degradation. The universe follows science - the laws of cause and effect. God is a Creator. He caused man and the universe. Something cannot arise from nothing.
Me ~ I agree but the rebuttal will be that God then has a cause.
John ~ Back in the 1700s, people thought that flies came from garbage. A fly is not the same as trash. Is that any different than imagining a human being from a single cell organism? Both are not true but they can appear that way. Simple things do not come from things less complex. Yet, most atheists say that man came from nothing as that which they are not yet fully capable of understanding. I say we came from something and when the time is right, when God allows, we will fully understand the creator. Scientists of all kinds including mathematicians try very hard to find other ways to explain how something comes from nothing. They can put x in a equation to represent that which they do not yet understand. I don't disagree. X = God and God is x.
As for God having a cause. For those that are not creationists, their best outlet is to say that there is a bubble, one universe inside another. They don't want to confess, they don't want to admit that an intelligence greater than they are can be an un-created being - the first thing and the last ~ The Alpha and The Omega!
Its logical.
“What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and
what no human mind has conceived”— the things God has prepared for those
who love him— these are the things God has revealed to us by his
Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For
who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In
the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of
God.What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit
who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given
us.This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in
words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with
Spirit-taught words". 2 Corinthians 2:9-13
The Analyst
Being Brainy for God
Monday, December 21, 2015
Sunday, December 13, 2015
The Great Deception!
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come
unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed,
the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every
so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the
temple of God, displaying himself as being God ~ 2 Th 2:3-5.
Me ~ What is the great deception?
John ~ The great deception is the greatest lie ever told and it will be told by the Anti-Christ.
Me ~ What is the lie?
John ~ The greatest lie is that we don't need a savior nor redeemer and we can become gods ourselves. We can find a way on our own to save ourselves spiritually and physically.
Me ~ How did Jesus prepare us to recognize the lie.
John ~ When Jesus came here he gave proof that He was God by the things He did and said that were prophesied thousands of years before Him. He became the sacrifice to take away our sin and give us eternal life. And, he promised to give us God's spirit as evidence that we are now reborn into God's kingdom. Having this spirit in us gives us discernment to recognize the truth from the lie.
Jesus's life and death on earth was to reveal to us that death is lie. He came to tell us that our real life is not in this fallen fleshly world. Since the fall, we now live in a sinful corrupt world, death is the result of sin in the world. Through His death and our death we overcome the world of sin. In that overcoming, we are born of the spirit and with that and in that given eternal life. This promise, was in fact, the first demonstrated to us in the experience of Abraham who was willing to sacrifice his son Issac.
Me ~ If you saying that is death is a lie, then why will the Anti-Christ tell us this if Jesus Christ already did?
John ~ The difference is that the Anti-Christ is going to tell us that we don't need God for eternal life, we just need him and our own technology.The Anti-Christ will tell us that this place is the 'real place' and that death is a lie and that he is God wants does not want not to die but to live and worship him. To accomplish this, all we have to do is use the technology he has given us; for instance, technology to create new DNA, to take the mark of our new creation. That is the lie.
Me ~ Are we being set up for this Anti-Christ and his false promise even now?
John ~ Yes. We see this new generation completely subservient to this very new technology, fully trusting it and those behind it. They are completely unaware that their humanity and freedom are being stolen from them. They are being indoctrinated in simple and naive ways by ungodly men and women. Firstly, they have accepted demonic images, devils and magic as normal. They have accepted tattoos as normal and they have accepted technology as friendly; living in their virtual fb/twitter worlds. They have accepted lies about homosexuality and that the environment is a living 'mother' spirit. They have accepted the idea that they are their own god and life is all about them and that they are entitled to think that way. There has never been a generation in all of human history so prepared to be deceived as the new millennials.
Me ~ What is the future going to be like for those (including all ages) not being deceived?
John ~ It is going to be dangerous. Because the deception is going to be so wide spread and accepted by the majority. It is going to make it difficult to have and keep a job and be a part of the culture and society. In Rev. chapter 13 we read that those who do not take the mark will not be able to buy or sell. Essentially, living in a world sold out to deception will be a perilous as Jesus said it would be. But perilous in so far as our bodies can be killed, but Thank God in Jesus Christ we have eternal life and we should not be afraid.
I know that from God's own word, He will provide for us and protest us and use us for His glory and we will inherit everything once He has cleaned this mess up. So, for the longer range forecast, for those who are not deceived, the future will be utterly incredibly wonderful. "Blessed on are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." Rev. 14:13. " He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain for the old order of things has passed away." Rev. 21:5. While the future for those deceived, the future is going to be incredibly horrifying. ..."for during those days (men who have the mark of the beast and not the seal of God on their foreheads), they will seek death, (they will want to die) but death will elude them". Rev. 9
Know that we are in the kingdom now (Colossians 1:13), but there is a more glorious phase to yet be entered (2 Peter 1:11). We enjoy salvation presently (Mark 16:16), but there is a greater dimension, a heavenly salvation, to be received at death (2 Timothy 4:18). There is a sense in which we are with Christ now (Matthew 18:20; 26:29; 28:20), but there is a more exalted state in which we will be with him ultimately (Philippians 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:8).
Me ~ What is the great deception?
John ~ The great deception is the greatest lie ever told and it will be told by the Anti-Christ.
Me ~ What is the lie?
John ~ The greatest lie is that we don't need a savior nor redeemer and we can become gods ourselves. We can find a way on our own to save ourselves spiritually and physically.
Me ~ How did Jesus prepare us to recognize the lie.
John ~ When Jesus came here he gave proof that He was God by the things He did and said that were prophesied thousands of years before Him. He became the sacrifice to take away our sin and give us eternal life. And, he promised to give us God's spirit as evidence that we are now reborn into God's kingdom. Having this spirit in us gives us discernment to recognize the truth from the lie.
Jesus's life and death on earth was to reveal to us that death is lie. He came to tell us that our real life is not in this fallen fleshly world. Since the fall, we now live in a sinful corrupt world, death is the result of sin in the world. Through His death and our death we overcome the world of sin. In that overcoming, we are born of the spirit and with that and in that given eternal life. This promise, was in fact, the first demonstrated to us in the experience of Abraham who was willing to sacrifice his son Issac.
Me ~ If you saying that is death is a lie, then why will the Anti-Christ tell us this if Jesus Christ already did?
John ~ The difference is that the Anti-Christ is going to tell us that we don't need God for eternal life, we just need him and our own technology.The Anti-Christ will tell us that this place is the 'real place' and that death is a lie and that he is God wants does not want not to die but to live and worship him. To accomplish this, all we have to do is use the technology he has given us; for instance, technology to create new DNA, to take the mark of our new creation. That is the lie.
Me ~ Are we being set up for this Anti-Christ and his false promise even now?
John ~ Yes. We see this new generation completely subservient to this very new technology, fully trusting it and those behind it. They are completely unaware that their humanity and freedom are being stolen from them. They are being indoctrinated in simple and naive ways by ungodly men and women. Firstly, they have accepted demonic images, devils and magic as normal. They have accepted tattoos as normal and they have accepted technology as friendly; living in their virtual fb/twitter worlds. They have accepted lies about homosexuality and that the environment is a living 'mother' spirit. They have accepted the idea that they are their own god and life is all about them and that they are entitled to think that way. There has never been a generation in all of human history so prepared to be deceived as the new millennials.
Me ~ What is the future going to be like for those (including all ages) not being deceived?
John ~ It is going to be dangerous. Because the deception is going to be so wide spread and accepted by the majority. It is going to make it difficult to have and keep a job and be a part of the culture and society. In Rev. chapter 13 we read that those who do not take the mark will not be able to buy or sell. Essentially, living in a world sold out to deception will be a perilous as Jesus said it would be. But perilous in so far as our bodies can be killed, but Thank God in Jesus Christ we have eternal life and we should not be afraid.
I know that from God's own word, He will provide for us and protest us and use us for His glory and we will inherit everything once He has cleaned this mess up. So, for the longer range forecast, for those who are not deceived, the future will be utterly incredibly wonderful. "Blessed on are the dead who die in the Lord from now on." Rev. 14:13. " He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain for the old order of things has passed away." Rev. 21:5. While the future for those deceived, the future is going to be incredibly horrifying. ..."for during those days (men who have the mark of the beast and not the seal of God on their foreheads), they will seek death, (they will want to die) but death will elude them". Rev. 9
Know that we are in the kingdom now (Colossians 1:13), but there is a more glorious phase to yet be entered (2 Peter 1:11). We enjoy salvation presently (Mark 16:16), but there is a greater dimension, a heavenly salvation, to be received at death (2 Timothy 4:18). There is a sense in which we are with Christ now (Matthew 18:20; 26:29; 28:20), but there is a more exalted state in which we will be with him ultimately (Philippians 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:8).
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