Me ~ Are we living in end times?
John ~ Indeed. The end times are the period in history where God is raping up his plan for this current age of man. which fits into His eternal plan. Technically speaking, the end times began with Christ's resurrection and return to heaven. However, we can also use that term to describe the years preceding His return. Within those preceding years is a seven year period called the great tribulation. In this period of time the bride of Christ is purified and brought to heaven while the world undergoes judgement through the works of Lucifer and the Fallen ones with incredible natural catastrophes which culminates in the second coming of Christ at the battle of Armageddon.
Me ~ Concerning then 'end times' where, when and who are we talking about? Maybe we should start from who?
John ~ The end times involves the human race. Though specific individuals are mentioned during this great tribulation period. The main character is the Dragon or Satan also known as Lucifer knows as the fallen cherub. He is the one who has been hurled to earth and is trying to hang onto what is left of his kingdom. Preparing the world to repel the invasion of Christ at Armageddon. The second most important character is the beast known as the anti-Christ. He is an individual who becomes the world ruler at this time. And, is possessed by an evil spirit sent by Lucifer. The second character is the false prophet who is a false Messiah and causes the entire world to worship the beast.The final character is the Lord Jesus Christ who returns to establish his rule on the earth and recreate the Garden of Eden and imprison Lucifer and his fallen ones for a thousand years until judgment.
Me ~ OK, but what the discussion about that where they come from suggests who... The Bible says that the false prophet will come out of the earth and he looks like a lamb with horns and the anti-Christ comes out of the sea which likely means the area of the Mediterranean.
John ~ The anti-Christ is an Assyrian. That is Biblical. Also, he is of the people that destroyed the temple in 70 A.D. which was a Syrian legion of the Roman army. Also, he will be a man of fierce countenance and will conquer by peace and war. He honors a god of force and is not interested in the desire of women and will claim to be god and demand to be worshiped as such in his short career. He will take over the temple in Jerusalem and kill the Jews and fight a battle against Jesus - Armageddon.
Me ~ We have talked before about the Rapture. Where in this spectrum of end times is that?
John ~ The word rapture is not used in the Bible. It is a permutation of the Greek word -parousia which means the coming. This word refers of Jesus Christ's coming. Appearing the air when he comes to remove the church prior to the judgment of mankind. Paul referred to this as the Blessed Hope. It occurs somewhere either just prior to the tribulation and or up to the mid point which is about three and half years into it.
Me ~ Do we know when that is?
John ~ We will know when we see the sing of the Son of man in the sky. It maybe be the sign of a cross or His actual visage. We do know that when the sun goes dark and the moon turns to blood and what looks like the stars falling to earth, (I strongly believe a super volcano or cometary impact on the earth) we will know His coming is imminent.
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Tuesday, May 19, 2015
Interstellar ~ What was it about?
Interstellar
*Readers note - this is quite lengthy so take the time to read it, perhaps over two days...
Me ~ The critics say that this science fiction movie is an wrapping of basic spiritual/emotional human desires (for home, for family, for continuity of bloodline and culture), as well as a horror film of sorts—one that treats the star voyagers’ and their earthbound loved ones’ separation as spectacular metaphors for what happens when the people we value are taken from us by death, illness, or by unbridgeable distances.
I thought that this film "Interstellar" was somehow attempting to understand what the universe really means for man as in his role in it being part of a greater cosmic experience; especially in that the main characters seek to discover an alternative place to live given the planet's 'earth' supposed destruction is inevitable. The storyline gives us a futuristic dystopian society, not drastic but evidently very different. We thus get a sense that there is a desire to get answers that would solve a serious problem and lead to a better life. While, we can appreciate that, we are not sure that the people are entirely committed to the idea of finding a better place or life outside of life on earth. I would even go as far as to say that the actors and director did not seem to be committed to the original storyline. For instance, in the beginning of the film, we are led to think that there's a ghost in this film, writing out messages to the living trapped in reoccurring dust storms. Other characters (scientists) strain to interpret distant radio messages as if they were ancient texts written in a dead language, and stare through red-rimmed eyes at video messages sent years ago, by people on the other side of the cosmos.
What do you think the film was trying to achieve, was it a search for the creator?
John ~ I think the film was trying to touch on the same ground as the movie 2001 A Space Odyssey. It was more than an allegory and leaning on science. Except for the dawn of man, all other elements were there, a Stargate, artificial intelligence, you have a new home for mankind and you have the individual going there and coming back who has acquired a greater sense of reality than when he left and imparts this experience on all mankind for his benefit.
Me ~ Why are we interested in making and watching such films?
John ~ It is all basically trying to identity our location and place in creation. Are we more than just animated dust? Do we have a deeper connection to the cosmos? Do we have a destiny in the larger universe? What is the nature of time and space? Are they 'things' that can be manipulated by intelligence. Because, in this film, they were. All these questions, are asked by all religions, faiths, and each one has its own answer. Nowhere in the film was there a higher intelligence than man. What they thought were aliens were us, which puts man in the god seat. This means that the movie comes from a secular humanistic point of view.
Me ~ Why does man want to be God?
John ~ Because of Christian man's ego. Some cultures do not question nature, they simply accept it. The Chinese made a lot of discoveries but never applied them because what they discovered did not seem necessary, just a curiosity. For example, a primitive society would see a light bulb, but they would not know what to do with it or want to do something with it because it would not fit with their symbiotic life with 'nature'; thus, it would just be a curiosity. Now, the Chinese would today know what to do with it, but given that they discovered gun powder many years ago they did not do anything with it... it was a curiosity.
Whereas Europeans went the distance with it. Why? Because, the idea of questioning and investigating nature is a purely Christian/European phenomenon. Which has now spread all over the world, because the Europeans spread out. Science was/is their method by which they question and investigate and imagine what is beyond what they see. This kind of thinking and investigating has now become accepted and applied by the world but again, in many cultures this kind of thinking, imagining was not original to them.
Me ~ Does this make Christianity exceptional, and in what way?
John ~ Yes, it means that 'Christian' man takes a dominate position over nature rather than a submissive role as we find in Pagan beliefs. Right from the beginning, (Genesis) man was given dominion over all of nature, while he lives with it, he is master of it. God gave him the ability to name the animals. This was the means and authority of assigning them their nature. Pagan, animistic and pantheistic beliefs place man equal to or subservient to the natural world. If one is subservient to nature, one does not question it nor bother to understand it.... it simply is. Which means that modern science is a direct consequence of the Judeo-Christian world view. If it were not for that world view, appearing in Europe, we would not be living in the world of technology that we live in today.
Naming was important, as in naming as an action, giving commands. In computer programming naming is important. God created man, and man was commanded. Man did the same, he established the nature of things by naming, which shows authority and not submission... we are co programmers of the world ~ what we were meant to be.
*Readers note - this is quite lengthy so take the time to read it, perhaps over two days...
Me ~ The critics say that this science fiction movie is an wrapping of basic spiritual/emotional human desires (for home, for family, for continuity of bloodline and culture), as well as a horror film of sorts—one that treats the star voyagers’ and their earthbound loved ones’ separation as spectacular metaphors for what happens when the people we value are taken from us by death, illness, or by unbridgeable distances.
I thought that this film "Interstellar" was somehow attempting to understand what the universe really means for man as in his role in it being part of a greater cosmic experience; especially in that the main characters seek to discover an alternative place to live given the planet's 'earth' supposed destruction is inevitable. The storyline gives us a futuristic dystopian society, not drastic but evidently very different. We thus get a sense that there is a desire to get answers that would solve a serious problem and lead to a better life. While, we can appreciate that, we are not sure that the people are entirely committed to the idea of finding a better place or life outside of life on earth. I would even go as far as to say that the actors and director did not seem to be committed to the original storyline. For instance, in the beginning of the film, we are led to think that there's a ghost in this film, writing out messages to the living trapped in reoccurring dust storms. Other characters (scientists) strain to interpret distant radio messages as if they were ancient texts written in a dead language, and stare through red-rimmed eyes at video messages sent years ago, by people on the other side of the cosmos.
What do you think the film was trying to achieve, was it a search for the creator?
John ~ I think the film was trying to touch on the same ground as the movie 2001 A Space Odyssey. It was more than an allegory and leaning on science. Except for the dawn of man, all other elements were there, a Stargate, artificial intelligence, you have a new home for mankind and you have the individual going there and coming back who has acquired a greater sense of reality than when he left and imparts this experience on all mankind for his benefit.
Me ~ Why are we interested in making and watching such films?
John ~ It is all basically trying to identity our location and place in creation. Are we more than just animated dust? Do we have a deeper connection to the cosmos? Do we have a destiny in the larger universe? What is the nature of time and space? Are they 'things' that can be manipulated by intelligence. Because, in this film, they were. All these questions, are asked by all religions, faiths, and each one has its own answer. Nowhere in the film was there a higher intelligence than man. What they thought were aliens were us, which puts man in the god seat. This means that the movie comes from a secular humanistic point of view.
Me ~ Why does man want to be God?
John ~ Because of Christian man's ego. Some cultures do not question nature, they simply accept it. The Chinese made a lot of discoveries but never applied them because what they discovered did not seem necessary, just a curiosity. For example, a primitive society would see a light bulb, but they would not know what to do with it or want to do something with it because it would not fit with their symbiotic life with 'nature'; thus, it would just be a curiosity. Now, the Chinese would today know what to do with it, but given that they discovered gun powder many years ago they did not do anything with it... it was a curiosity.
Whereas Europeans went the distance with it. Why? Because, the idea of questioning and investigating nature is a purely Christian/European phenomenon. Which has now spread all over the world, because the Europeans spread out. Science was/is their method by which they question and investigate and imagine what is beyond what they see. This kind of thinking and investigating has now become accepted and applied by the world but again, in many cultures this kind of thinking, imagining was not original to them.
Me ~ Does this make Christianity exceptional, and in what way?
John ~ Yes, it means that 'Christian' man takes a dominate position over nature rather than a submissive role as we find in Pagan beliefs. Right from the beginning, (Genesis) man was given dominion over all of nature, while he lives with it, he is master of it. God gave him the ability to name the animals. This was the means and authority of assigning them their nature. Pagan, animistic and pantheistic beliefs place man equal to or subservient to the natural world. If one is subservient to nature, one does not question it nor bother to understand it.... it simply is. Which means that modern science is a direct consequence of the Judeo-Christian world view. If it were not for that world view, appearing in Europe, we would not be living in the world of technology that we live in today.
Naming was important, as in naming as an action, giving commands. In computer programming naming is important. God created man, and man was commanded. Man did the same, he established the nature of things by naming, which shows authority and not submission... we are co programmers of the world ~ what we were meant to be.
Tuesday, May 5, 2015
Seed ~ And the End Times
Me ~ In Genesis, we can read that God put enmity between the serpent and the woman and between the serpent's 'seed' as in offspring and hers; he (Eve's seed) will crush your (serpent's) head, and you (serpent) will strike his (Eve's seed) heel - Genesis 3:15.
How should we understand the importance of the 'seed'?
John ~ The entire battle between good and evil in our universe is going to be settled between 'seed' offspring of God/man and Satan/man.
Me ~ Are you saying then that Satan produced offspring?
John ~ Yes.
Me ~ With women on earth?
John ~ Through those that he had authority over. In Genesis chapter 6 describes the entire event which ultimately leads to the great flood which cleanses the planet from the seed of Satan.
Me ~ If the flood cleansed the planet, then what should be concerned about now?
John ~ The war is not over. Satan lost that battle, but Moses wrote that this seed reappeared after the flood. It was chased out and killed off of the Canaan region by the Hebrews which God commanded them to do so.We see all over the world including in North and South America, that this seed was active there as well. The book of Revelation talks about that seed reappearing again just as it did in the days of Noah. It will be the seed that wars against Jesus at His return.
Me ~ What does it mean then that the serpent will strike at Eve's seed's 'offspring' heel?
John ~ It means that Satan is going to harm Eve's seed but not destroy it. Eve's seed was Jesus and those that He makes like himself through the Spirit... being translated into his likeness.
Me ~ Is the serpent 'Satan' a real snake?
John ~ He is not a snake, he is a serpent. A serpent means reptile. God made him and called him a serpent. It was not intended to be allegory.
Me ~ Do you think there is too much allegory in the Bible?
John ~ No, there are too many people that think there is allegory in the Bible. People should take the Bible at face value even if it defies a narrow minded ability to grasp it. It only means your ability to grasp it is lacking. You don't have any experience to understand it as fact. We don't see people walking on water, or the Red Sea opening up or people being raised from the dead (though there are such cases), but that does not mean such events did not happen. I have no reason to call God a liar.
Me ~ People say that men wrote the Bible and that they used story telling techniques to convey their agenda.
John ~ They are wrong. The Bible is the Word of God, it proves itself. It is not someone's imagination or someone coming up with silly stories. This is why they don't get the importance of the 'seed' and Armageddon. Let me expound on the Bible being the Word of God. It is because nowhere in the Bible does it put 'man' first. God is put first and foremost. He is recognized repeatedly as the Creator of Heaven and Earth, of all things seen and unseen. Revelations is Jesus describing His second Coming.
We also have to understand that there is a physical 'gene' element that has to be given attention when we talk about 'seed'. This is who we know what it meant that Noah was perfect in his generation. He was genetically pure. As in the times of Noah, we will see the flesh (physically/ genetically) become corrupted again.
Me ~ Isn't the flesh corrupted already since this is a fallen 'corrupt' world?
John ~ In God's eyes, yes. But, man is growing up as in increasing that corruption rather than fighting and or struggling to reduce/eliminate it. Let me clarify, there was the spiritual fall which corrupted our physical (the sin of death is the result of that corruption) flesh. Because of that, there is now a growing as in increasing corruption of the flesh; made easier without its 'holy' spirit taken by Satan through deception.
Man whose spirit was corrupted by Satan is now doing Satan's work so to speak. Man is changing and mixing kinds in order to create new kinds life that were never meant to exist... by mixing genes, the code for life. In other words, Satan through man is trying to create life in his image violating God's order for life on earth. Essentially, we are witnessing Satan's seed devouring God's. Like a virus devouring the original hard drive program.
Now, God sent His Son as a kind of patch (first to save God's program for those who recognize and accept it) to 'attack' the serpents seed and the final blow is yet to come.
How should we understand the importance of the 'seed'?
John ~ The entire battle between good and evil in our universe is going to be settled between 'seed' offspring of God/man and Satan/man.
Me ~ Are you saying then that Satan produced offspring?
John ~ Yes.
Me ~ With women on earth?
John ~ Through those that he had authority over. In Genesis chapter 6 describes the entire event which ultimately leads to the great flood which cleanses the planet from the seed of Satan.
Me ~ If the flood cleansed the planet, then what should be concerned about now?
John ~ The war is not over. Satan lost that battle, but Moses wrote that this seed reappeared after the flood. It was chased out and killed off of the Canaan region by the Hebrews which God commanded them to do so.We see all over the world including in North and South America, that this seed was active there as well. The book of Revelation talks about that seed reappearing again just as it did in the days of Noah. It will be the seed that wars against Jesus at His return.
Me ~ What does it mean then that the serpent will strike at Eve's seed's 'offspring' heel?
John ~ It means that Satan is going to harm Eve's seed but not destroy it. Eve's seed was Jesus and those that He makes like himself through the Spirit... being translated into his likeness.
Me ~ Is the serpent 'Satan' a real snake?
John ~ He is not a snake, he is a serpent. A serpent means reptile. God made him and called him a serpent. It was not intended to be allegory.
Me ~ Do you think there is too much allegory in the Bible?
John ~ No, there are too many people that think there is allegory in the Bible. People should take the Bible at face value even if it defies a narrow minded ability to grasp it. It only means your ability to grasp it is lacking. You don't have any experience to understand it as fact. We don't see people walking on water, or the Red Sea opening up or people being raised from the dead (though there are such cases), but that does not mean such events did not happen. I have no reason to call God a liar.
Me ~ People say that men wrote the Bible and that they used story telling techniques to convey their agenda.
John ~ They are wrong. The Bible is the Word of God, it proves itself. It is not someone's imagination or someone coming up with silly stories. This is why they don't get the importance of the 'seed' and Armageddon. Let me expound on the Bible being the Word of God. It is because nowhere in the Bible does it put 'man' first. God is put first and foremost. He is recognized repeatedly as the Creator of Heaven and Earth, of all things seen and unseen. Revelations is Jesus describing His second Coming.
We also have to understand that there is a physical 'gene' element that has to be given attention when we talk about 'seed'. This is who we know what it meant that Noah was perfect in his generation. He was genetically pure. As in the times of Noah, we will see the flesh (physically/ genetically) become corrupted again.
Me ~ Isn't the flesh corrupted already since this is a fallen 'corrupt' world?
John ~ In God's eyes, yes. But, man is growing up as in increasing that corruption rather than fighting and or struggling to reduce/eliminate it. Let me clarify, there was the spiritual fall which corrupted our physical (the sin of death is the result of that corruption) flesh. Because of that, there is now a growing as in increasing corruption of the flesh; made easier without its 'holy' spirit taken by Satan through deception.
Man whose spirit was corrupted by Satan is now doing Satan's work so to speak. Man is changing and mixing kinds in order to create new kinds life that were never meant to exist... by mixing genes, the code for life. In other words, Satan through man is trying to create life in his image violating God's order for life on earth. Essentially, we are witnessing Satan's seed devouring God's. Like a virus devouring the original hard drive program.
Now, God sent His Son as a kind of patch (first to save God's program for those who recognize and accept it) to 'attack' the serpents seed and the final blow is yet to come.
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