Marriage ~ Between a Man and a Woman

Me ~ As you know, today the Supreme Court discussed whether or not the Federal Government has the right to institutionalize gay marriage at the Federal level. In other words...The Supreme Court heard oral arguments on whether states have the right to determine their own definition of marriage, or whether the Constitution requires all 50 states to make same sex marriage legal.

How will this effect Christians and their view of marriage?

John ~ Christians will still view marriage as they always have. Which is that marriage is a divine institution between one woman and one man.

Me ~ What makes that so important? Why is that God's design?

John ~ Because that is they way God wanted it. He designed the universe and nature in that. It reflects a spiritual truth which is an essence a mirror with how God has a relationship in the Trinity and how Jesus has a relationship with His Church. Remember, we are talking about God as three personalities in the same being, not three distinct individuals. So, if you were going to ask me about polygamy; I answer - no.  I am not talking about three individuals being married. I am only talking about relationship. To be clearer yet, I am talking about a kind of trinity of marriage as being in man-husband, woman-wife and God. And, Christ's relationship with us is a stronger case or illustration for that.

Me ~ You said that Christians view of marriage will not change regardless of the decision. However, we see many protesters saying that this is not good for Christians in our society. What do you say to that?

John ~ My point of view as a Christian won't change. if this goes through, it will change our life, our society, our country.The biggest problem being with children. Firstly, the idea that the Federal Government will tell us that what was good for thousands of years is now different because of a few goes against democracy. As for our children, they will have to be told in public education that their parents are wrong if their parents hold a contrary view. The states will no longer have any power to have separate individual rulings, which was the foundation of our country. So, this entire agenda violates our Constitution.

Me ~ Do you think that homosexual couples have had any rights denied them of any kind?

John ~ Yes, the only right that they have been denied is the right to have a religious marriage. And, certainly none pertaining to their Constitutional rights. There has never been a nationwide persecution of same sex couples. What they ask for is confirmation of their behavior. Such people have engaged in such life styles for ages and they have lived among us. But now they are asking for enforced legal affirmation of sin. They want to use the law to make you say that you agree with their life style which is the second biggest problem for Christians and for this country as a union of states that came together under the idea of liberty and justice for all.  Now, justice is for the few.

The Sinful Mind is Failure to Embrace the Kingdom of God

Me ~ In my social quantum analysis blog, I told readers that creationists know that the kingdom is an eternal kingdom, because all information as in every word of it comes from the mouth of God the Creator of all things seen and unseen. You may argue that men speak words and men wrote the Bible. Does that mean that men create themselves and through their words evolve to be God through use of 'words'? Yes and No. Yes, because this is what the Creator programmed us to do become like Him. We can accept that or not. It is our choice to accept the Kingdom within us. The commands programed in us 'command' each program to be like the Creator in order to be saved. No - because we are not God, we are created by God. No one is greater than the Creator, not even the creation.We can assume that by not accepting the commands, the program cannot be saved. Because, indulging in your sinful nature, which is the indulgence in what the mind projects alone as a glorification of the self and not the Creator, only leads to death. I based this on ~ Romans 8

I know you had a comment about what I wrote and today I would like you to elaborate on it. Exactly, what is Romans 8 telling us... what is the sinful mind. 

John ~ Those that don't have the spirit in them, the Holy Spirit = God, will not have a renewed mind. So, even creationists who are not born again, born of the spirit will be not be saved. The sinful nature is the mind without the spirit of God. The spirit is what you makes God like.... to imagine what God imagines. We have to renew our minds. To go from a non spirit mind, to a spirit mind. To think of things that are in the mind of God, not in our own  minds for our own pleasure and or gratification of the self.

For instance, scientists boast that they discovered something new about the universe... other scientists support them and so they are in agreement and they celebrate their collective minds in agreement of what is out there as seen by their minds which somehow makes them special. It is important to practice hearing God so that you do not fall into your own understanding of what you 'think' is out there.

You mentioned that our minds project God's imagination as to what is out there. I agree, but credit to what we see should be in fact must be given to God. It is because of Him that we see anything out there... not because of our own mind. And that is why I agree with you in that we have yet to embrace God's imagination = God's Spirit and we fail to truly see what is out there because we fail to embrace what is in us which is the Kingdom of God.

Resurrection and Ascension of Jesus Christ

Me ~ Jesus said, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies, and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. "(John 11:25-26)

What is the importance of this for Christians?

John ~  Its everything. It is the whole point for Jesus to come to earth. To take the sin of the world away. It is why we are called Christians. Without the resurrection, there is no life.

Me ~ Most Christians know that Jesus resurrected on the third day which was foretold as we can read in the Old Testament and even Jesus himself told of his resurrection 'on the third day' numerous times and even the night before He was crucified. He did resurrect on the third day which was relevant for His ministry to the Jewish people. And, he did.

However, He did not ascend into heaven until forty days after his resurrection, Jesus called his 11 apostles (Judas committed suicide) together on the Mount of Olives, outside Jerusalem. Still not completely understanding that Christ's messianic mission had been spiritual and not political, the disciples asked Jesus if he was going to restore the kingdom to Israel. They were frustrated with Roman oppression and may have envisioned an overthrow of Rome.

Jesus answered them. It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." (Acts 1:7-8,  NIV)

Then Jesus was taken up, and a cloud hid him from their sight. As the disciples were watching him ascend, two angels dressed in white robes stood beside them and asked them why they were looking into the sky. The angels said to the disciples - "This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." (Acts 1:11, NIV)


What was the importance of this?

John ~  During these forty days, Jesus was showing people that he was still alive. Jesus wanted the disciples to see that He was going to an actual physical place. Since, He was able to do that, He would be able to return. He actually went somewhere. Again, Jesus did this so that they disciples would know that he would return.

Me ~ Do you think that the second coming of Jesus Christ is near?

John ~ Yes, I do. Jesus told the disciples to watch for the signs and seasons in order to know His second coming. He admonished the religious leaders of Israel for being able to tell what season of the year and the weather ... why could they not do the same for the signs and seasons that God told them about?

Me ~ Why has it taken so long? I mean didn't the disciples expect Jesus to return in their lifetime and here we are today, still waiting.

John ~ Jesus never said how long he was going to be gone. He never said how long the last days would be... they could have been 2,000 plus years. In the old Testament, to God a thousand years is a day and a day is a thousand years. While this could have been figurative, ti would still have the same meaning whether literal or figurative since time is different God in comparison to us... in heaven's time, it could only have been couple of days.

We cannot measure God's time in our puny life spans. When you set the age of the earth next to eternity, it pales and disappears. However, He did give us certain signs and season to watch for to know that His coming was close, even at the door... about to knock. One of these signs was the reestablishment of the nation of Israel.

After a long period of being gone from the land. In fact, this is the central sign and season that everything else is measured by. In 1948, Israel became a nation after 2,000 years. Which means that the prophetic clock is closer to midnight than it was before 1948,

Freedom in Christ

Me ~ Many people today think that Christianity is about submission and it requires a person to be enslaved to an unknown entity that only wants to be glorified. However, that is far from the truth.  How would you answer their question which is really about freedom? What does it means "freedom in Christ"?

John ~ It means connecting your mind to God and that does not mean you are submerging your identity to or in Him, you are linking to an infinite intelligence with infinite ability. I am not sure we can understand that, but it is greater than anything we can imagine. Connecting with God means we free our mind, our soul and spirit by becoming one with Christ who is God. By doing so we open ourselves to infinite possibility, we actually free ourselves to greater potential. More than we could ever have in this world of finite limitations.

God is not a finite person, He is infinite having infinity knowledge, insights, potential, creativity... why would anyone in his/her right mind refuse that.

Me ~ I think that they as in non believers are describing what you describe as being possible here... they think that they just have to discover the means to do get that kind of infinite knowledge here and now.  Perhaps, that is why we can see developing the trans-humanist agenda. Do you agree?

John ~ I think that the trans-humanist agenda is evidence that human beings see themselves as limited in this world. They recognize that there is a greater reality than here and they seek to escape it - the cycle of  futility that we surly see/experience in this world and our lives. Unfortunately, one does not attain infinity through finite means. We have to allow God to plug into us. He made us and individually He knows what is best for us. Why would I settle for anything less than the best for me which only He knows.

Me ~ So, how do we plug in to God or allow God to plug into us?

John ~ Through His Son - Jesus. Asking Jesus to come into us, into our hearts and mind.

Me ~ People are scared. They think that if God were really out there, then we would not die. Maybe that is why they don't allow God to plug in.

John ~ Death is the means by which God keeps evil from over running the world. You have only so many years to be evil. We cannot have eternal life until evil is conquered. Jesus came to bring us life and he is coming again to put an end to evil.  Would you want Hitler's living forever? Death is God's favor to us in the fallen state that we are in.

Me ~ What is the resurrection? Will we be resurrected?

John ~ Everyone will be resurrected. Some will be resurrected to eternal life and some to eternal separation from God.

Me ~ Essentially, then everyone who believes in Jesus is free indeed!

"So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:36 and also what we can read in Galatians 5 - Freedom in Christ ~ "It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery".

"Do not put your trust in princes or mortal men who cannot save." Psalm 146:3

Living in an Anti-Christ World ~ Lucifer's Fall

Me ~ So many people ask me if this world was created by God, then why do bad things happen. I tell them it is because we live in a fallen world. Then they ask what do I mean by that since we are supposed treasure God's creation here and now?

John ~ It is all God's creation, this fallen world does not take away from God. The people He assigned to rule over His creation rebelled against Him. The creation is subjected to futility in sin. Because, when those who were given authority fell the creation also fell and it suffers just as we do. Though it has beauty to it, it is clearly a fallen world and not what God intended it to be. Nature groans waiting for restoration. Nature will be raised up with us and restored; nature and man and the fallen angels are symbiotically interconnected. Nature reflects our spiritual state, it depends on us; you cannot separate the two.When mankind is restored and nature as well as we will be given authority over it again, God's design. However, the fallen angels will be thrown into the lake of fire and those who have chosen to reject Christ.

Me ~ So, are you saying that since the fall we have been living in an anti-Christ World or just a fallen world? and Who was Lucifer? He is 'Satan'?

John ~ We have been living in a fallen world since then and since Jesus died, the spirit of anti-Christ has been growing in this world by our rejecting Christ and slipping into the lullaby murmur of the anti-Christ. Let me say though, we don't know if this cherub 'angel' was actually named 'Lucifer' but the Bible intimates in one verse that this is so. And, therefore, we don't build doctrine on one verse. We do know that this cherub was the greatest creation of God. It was given vast authority over His creation. It was even the leader of worship of God. This cherub 'angel', was incredibly beautiful and powerful. But at some point, this cherub sinned and saw itself as God. And, convinced one third of all other beings of the universe to join him in a rebellion. This rebellion caused the universe to suffer.In fact, it is likely that the earth was left desolate because of this revolt. So, Genius 1 does not describe the creation of the planet earth but its restoration.

In response, God replaced this one and all fallen beings with a new creation called 'mankind' = man. It was this new creation's task to take authority over God's creation 'universe' and to turn His universe into a garden. Unfortunately, mankind joined up this fallen cherub and his minions in rebellion and handed over their authority to the cherub = dark angel. At that moment, the Garden of Eden was removed and mankind had to live in a fallen nature. And, has ever since and still does.

So, this fallen cherub this dark angel often referred to as 'Lucifer' is the god of this world. Jesus even called him that. In fact, this god had the authority to hand over or turn over this world to Jesus if Jesus would worship him. Jesus refused the offer (in the wildness when Jesus was being tested). By refusing that offer, Jesus was able to take away the authority from 'Lucifer' and return that authority to God which was Himself.  However, the world still languishes in a fallen state and so does mankind; yet, those accept spiritual rebirth through Jesus Christ will be raised to an incorruptible state of being one day soon. And nature with them. Then the world will no longer be fallen.

Me ~ Can we call this world today, an anti-Christ world? I mean we see so many people rejecting Jesus as their Savior and God the Father.

John ~ Yes, as I said earlier, since Jesus died there has been a rising spirit of anti-Christ which is the spirit against God. Why? Because, this fallen cherub still clings to the authority he had, and won't relinquish it or have it taken from his hands 'ripped' from his hands until the Battle of Armageddon and along with all the other fallen angels. As we approach that battle, in the last seven years of this current age, this cherub will raise up a counterfeit Christ to steal mankind away from God. Many will be deceived as the anti-Christ spirit will materialize into a specific individual and this individual is to be called the 'Beast' or Anti-Christ. Both terms describe the nature of this individual. The term beast describes its literal inhumanity. And, anti-Christ describes its spiritual state. It is anti-God. Fortunately, this individual rules over the earth for a very short span of years before God returns and restores Himself to leadership and we with Him.

Multi-Dimensioinality of God

Me ~ We talked once before about the multiverse. I want to talk now a little about the multidimensional aspect of God. I know that a lot of Christians and people who are not Christians have a problem with or wonder how Jesus Christ forgave sin once and for all at the cross which means in every multiverse.  For the lay person, can you elaborate on that?

John ~ Imagine drawing a line from one end of paper to another this represents time as we experience it. In order from a to b to c stretching from end to another end in a single direction.a series of moments each moment is a discreet existence of time. Now imagine a being that can exist outside of time and within time imagine that Christ could exist in one single moment eternally. Or experience eternity in one single moment so that each person whoever lived could be atoned. He could suffer the punishment for every person that ever lived... He Christ could experience that moment eternally on the cross for every person that ever lived because of His hyper-dimensional nature.

Me ~ Ok, you mean let's imagine drawing a line from one end of a sheet of paper to another and then crossing that line with another from one end of the paper to the other...making a plus a 'cross'. Therefore, Christ's act of sacrifice would essentially be eternal in that moment of time, suffer the eternal punishment for every person that ever lived in one moment of time due to His hyper-dimensional nature.


John ~ Yes!

Me ~ I love the story in Mark when Jesus fed the 4,000. Many people can't imagine this event as something that could actually happen. Given what you said about Christ being hyper-dimensional, then I suppose it was possible.

John ~ In the TV show Star Trek, it was postulated that man could turn energy into matter. We can already turn matter into energy, what nuclear fission is. If we could reverse the process we could turn any energy into any material that we wanted instantly. Clearly God has that capability. He is the master of energy and matter which are really two sides of the same coin.; both are simply different means of expressing the same program which means  how to take an idea and make it real either as energy or matter. Jesus demonstrated God's ability to this when he fed the four thousand so that we would know that there is nothing that God cannot do.

Me ~ Given that, what is this fallen world we experience, some call it the 'lower' sphere and God is in the higher sphere. Some and let's just call them 'new age' Christians think that this world fell to Satan and he controls it, it is in the process of decay because he "Satan" is Error and caused error to come into the program. What do you say?

John ~  I would say it is a synthesis of those. We know from science that there are at least 11 higher dimensions. some of these could be time dimensions. We also have the potential for a multi-universe reality. Where every possibility exists any God that could create such a reality exists such a higher sphere of existence it is impossible to understand Him but only that which he wants us to understand and makes availability to us. the world we live in s a part of or fragment of reality a lower level of reality just as a two dimensional universe. The existence of entropy or decay in our universe is evident never to be eternal but to erode and disappear. as though God knew that evil would exist and placed it in this kind of universe so that it would never become eternal and be defeated. In much the same way death prevent evil people from living forever and thus causing a great deal less harm than if they would if they lived long lives.
Jesus dimension the higher dimensionality of God at the Transfiguration and at the Resurrection when he appeared in the upper room without entering. As well as his ability to walk on water and to go from one place to another as He did at the Sea of Galilee a couple of times.

Me ~ So now what?

John ~ So now we wait for the Lord to deal with those that have chosen to live in error and have selected darkness as their preferred existence and to resurrect those of us who have followed Him and bring us into the same glorious life He has and to restore the earth and the rest of the universe to its original glory.

Overcoming the Flesh

Me ~ This week I wrote on Godly Woman about overcoming the flesh. I said that marriage was the means for two to become spiritually one through consummation of the flesh. There is a lot of discussion out there about the flesh, not just skin/bodies but the world of material things also stands for flesh. Today, people seem to over indulge in the flesh and thus people are really unable to overcome it. What do you think and is it absolutely necessary for us to overcome the flesh and what for?

John ~ Yes, Jesus said that eternal life belongs to those that are overcomers. This is how we mature as Christians and prepare to meet the Lord for our eternal lives.

Me~ I agree. What do you think about marriage as the means for a married couple to overcome the flesh?

John ~ I agree with Paul when he suggested that some people who do have a strong need for sex they  should marry the opposite gender so that the enemy will not take advantage of them because of the weakness of their flesh and fleshy desire. 

Me ~ Ok, but why marriage at all? I mean couldn't people who have a strong desire for sex just have sex with anyone who is of the opposite sex in that way, they overcome that desire for it and can focus on the spirit.

John ~ That is assuming that sexual activity is merely an activity like eating or breathing. Sexual relationships have a deeper spiritual reality. On one level it represents the relationship that the Trinity has with itself; that the Church has with Christ. On another level it is meant to provide a stable environment to raise children. Providing them with the most effective means of social programming. So, marriage, is not merely a biological need but a spiritual one aimed at satisfying God's will, not ours. We read in the Bible that God created one man and one woman together and that they together should be fruitful. It was not until sin entered the world that we began to see men with multiple wives, prostitution, homosexuality and the deconstruction of the family leading to divorce all of which reflect spiritual decay.

And, as you wrote in your Godly Woman blog, multiple partners is indulging in the flesh not overcoming it, not consuming it with the aim of spiritual awakening