Me ~ Who is the enemy?
John ~ The enemy are the forces of evil in high places. Paul said that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against powers and authorities in high places. Human beings are simple taking marching orders from wicked and evil authorities in higher dimensions. We should and can even call them fallen angels.
Me ~ Are you saying that people here on earth are possessed by fallen angels as in evil spirits and are somehow using people like puppets, pulling strings to get what they want? And, do people know that they are being used?
John ~ They are not possessed but highly influenced. They have chosen to accept these orders. Yes, they know that they are being used. These people are Satanists. They are in the federal government, in the UN and in the Vatican and in many churches... running the banks. Basically, wherever there is power and money, you will find such people. That is how they stay there.
Me ~ Why is that?
John ~ Because, Satan is the god of this fallen world. To prove that, when Jesus was in the wilderness, Satan came to him and offered Jesus all the kingdoms and powers of this world and how was that possible? It was because again Satan is the ruler of this fallen world and can and did make that offer. This fallen world belongs to Satan.
Me ~ I agree and understand. Yet, many churches who claim that they are as well as their members Christians, seem to think that God is directing their life here and will provide them with wealth and health and all good things. Doesn't that seem like a contradiction to what you just stated? I mean, wouldn't it be Satan that is making the promises just as he promised Jesus.
John ~ I need to untangle this. There seem to be two messages. Those that are His, He will provide for us if we put His kingdom first. Yet, there are those that hold to a prosperity gospel that God does not want anything bad to happen to you only good things such as wealth and riches. So, the truth of the matter is that God says the He will take care and we should trust Him in all things and not focus our lives on gaining and holding onto material things. However, we will suffer loss and we will suffer pain and suffer at the hand of those who do not know Him. Ultimately, the problem is the definition of prosperity and wealth. It can mean money but it also means health and all the things that give us happiness here and now. However, they are not to be our objective in this world and could not be given this fallen world. Our joy comes from trusting and serving the Lord.
The problem with the prosperity gospel is that it puts prosperity first, we are not supposed to be focused on prosperity in this life but on our relationship with God... some will be good things and some will be bad things.
Me ~ Yes, I agree for the most part. However, I think that we differ a bit. I think that we have already been given everything we need in this world = The Blessed Hope Jesus Christ. If we want and ask for more aren't we being rebellious against God and in fact being anti-Christ. We are basically saying then that Jesus was not enough. Certainly, ultimately He is enough since this is still a fallen world and God's plan for this fallen world is its passing away 1 Cor7:13.
If anything good happens to us, good by our definition, then it could very well be from Satan since he rules this world. The only way to overcome him in his world is when 'good' things happen to us, we give thanks and praise to Jesus Christ.
John ~ Ok, but you are leaving out what Christ said, "When you don't ask for it, you won't get it". Jesus who is our Lord and Savior says "The Lord is our provision" for all we need. God would not give us a snake if we ask for a stone. Does this mean we will not suffer? Does this mean bad things will not happen. No. God promises He will get us safely into His Kingdom. There is no sin in asking God for the things we need. He clearly wants us to ask. We should take Him at his Word. The Bible says that if you don't get what you pray for, you ask amiss. We have to understand that not everything we ask for we will get. And, likely we will not get and that is because we live in a fallen world.
Me ~ Agree. Yet, many people will say "I think God wants me to have better". Isn't that like the illustrative story of when a man asks God to be rescued from a flood and, along comes a canoe. The man refuses because he expects a yacht. Couldn't God have gotten the man out with the canoe?
And, shouldn't we those who are children of God have the Kingdom within and we are thus able to move about doing the work of the Lord, preaching the Good News which is that Christ died for our sin and faith in Him will deliver us?
John ~ Does God say He wants us to have better. Yes, we trust Him to give us what we need. This is part of the trust. The story of the man who refused the canoe is not scriptural. It is dangerous for us to think that God wants us to take or have what little there is. We should be asking for His will to be done here on earth as it is in heaven. Let us understand that heaven is a place of perfection. There is no lack in heaven. If we want God's will to be done, we can ask for those things on earth. However, God does not always say yes. When we don't get what we ask for we should not be upset. God knows better than we do.
Me ~ Agree in that we are overcomers by saying that God's will be done, and by asking for all things excellent and or perfect of spirit for in that are all things we could ever want.
The Analyst
Being Brainy for God
Saturday, May 14, 2016
Monday, March 28, 2016
Resurrection ~ Why is it so important?
Me ~ Is the resurrection key to understanding the role of Jesus Christ regarding man's current dimensional existence and God's promise of eternal life in a higher dimension?
John ~ Yes, it is because by his resurrection he has ended the curse of spiritual death for those of us who accept his gift of eternal life. Of course this is based on His worthiness. I want to say that Jesus demonstrated higher dimensional attributes in his post resurrection state, such as being to appear and disappear at will. To be recognized or not at will and being able to walk the earth as flesh and body but also being able to leave in his spiritual nature. These attributes have been promised to those of us who have been born of the spirit through Jesus Christ when he returns.
The resurrection is an illustration of man's transformation from being dead in sin to being alive in Christ. The resurrected body of Christ appeared in the flesh to His disciples for purpose of revealing His resurrected dimensional attributes. We too will be resurrected from the dead and have such attributes. When Jesus returns, He will raise the dead and give those who were dead and those still alive glorified bodies. People in heaven now have spiritual bodies but they don't have physical bodies which means they do not have glorified bodies as Christ did after His resurrection. But, they will get them and we will too at the rapture.
The dead will rise first and we those still alive will be raptured which means that in the twinkling of an eye, we will be given a body just like His. You see, Jesus having both a physical and spiritual body = a glorified body represents the new Adam. Jesus exists in both in this reality and in higher realities. Jesus demonstrated this as He ate with the disciples after His resurrection. He was alive, a better version of man that we will become too. We will be like Him for we will see Him as He is. We will be known just as He is known.
John ~ Yes, it is because by his resurrection he has ended the curse of spiritual death for those of us who accept his gift of eternal life. Of course this is based on His worthiness. I want to say that Jesus demonstrated higher dimensional attributes in his post resurrection state, such as being to appear and disappear at will. To be recognized or not at will and being able to walk the earth as flesh and body but also being able to leave in his spiritual nature. These attributes have been promised to those of us who have been born of the spirit through Jesus Christ when he returns.
The resurrection is an illustration of man's transformation from being dead in sin to being alive in Christ. The resurrected body of Christ appeared in the flesh to His disciples for purpose of revealing His resurrected dimensional attributes. We too will be resurrected from the dead and have such attributes. When Jesus returns, He will raise the dead and give those who were dead and those still alive glorified bodies. People in heaven now have spiritual bodies but they don't have physical bodies which means they do not have glorified bodies as Christ did after His resurrection. But, they will get them and we will too at the rapture.
The dead will rise first and we those still alive will be raptured which means that in the twinkling of an eye, we will be given a body just like His. You see, Jesus having both a physical and spiritual body = a glorified body represents the new Adam. Jesus exists in both in this reality and in higher realities. Jesus demonstrated this as He ate with the disciples after His resurrection. He was alive, a better version of man that we will become too. We will be like Him for we will see Him as He is. We will be known just as He is known.
Thursday, March 10, 2016
Gog Magog War is Post Millennium!
Me ~ When is the Gog / Magog War and Why?
John ~ Firstly, the Gog / Magog War is not going to happen now. Gog is not the anti-Christ. Gog is Satan. And, Satan is a fallen cherubim who is the supreme anti-Christ spirit = against God. There is going to be a final anti-Christ = the beast who is the last one. This anti-Christ is coming as a man in the flesh.he will be indwelt by the spirit of the evil one, the dragon gives him authority.
The Gog Magog War happens at the end of the thousand year 'millennium' which is Christ's rule on earth. During that reign, Satan is however, bound in the pit at this end time. Satan is released from his prison and attempts to over throw God from His Holy Mountain to sit in the temple as God. This is the Gog Magog War.
Me ~ What led you to arrive at that conclusion?
John ~ It is simple. Gog is not the anti-Christ. He is Satan. The anti-Christ is an 'end time' man who is filled of the anti-Christ spirit... against God. The anti-Christ appears at the end of the world age which looks like now is the time ripe for his taking a world stage. This man is going to come from the area from Assyria. He will gain political and military power in the Middle East. He then proceeds to get more power when ten rulers give over their authority to him. At some point, he makes a covenant with many nations one being Israel which says that Israel will be left alone and be safe.
From the moment of the signing of that covenant, until thereafter a period of three and half years will pass, and he breaks this covenant and attacks Israel and he succeeds entering the Temple which was built earlier during that time from the signing until the three and a half years, and places an image of himself in the Temple which speaks and tells everyone to worship the beast - which he is = the anti-Christ. His mark will be required by all people to accept in order to buy and sell.
A lot of Jews and Christians will refuse to do so. Many Jews will flee to the mountains of Jordan and be safe there. And so he will turn his persecutions against Christians.
Then at some point, the day of the Lord happens when Christ returns and nearly destroys the earth entirely (Armageddon) and at the end of this short period, the anti-Christ is overthrown by Christ when he returns and Christ sets up the Millennium Kingdom on earth. That is when the Satan is imprisoned in the pit for those thousand years. While the anti-Christ and the false prophet are put into the lake of fire. They are gone.
Let me say that the most important language used to support this is found in Rev. 20 where we read that Satan is thrown into the pit for one thousand years and just prior to that the anti-Christ and the false prophet were thrown into the lake of fire. "But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf... The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur." ~Rev. 19:20.
Back to the Gog Magog War which we find in Ezekiel 38-39, this does not fit anywhere in any time prior to all of that. Firstly, what we read in Ezekiel is a war that is not fought with modern weaponry. It is fought with weapons that today would be considered outdated and even ancient. This means that all modern weaponry is wiped out, in fact, during the thousand years, there will be no need of such weaponry. The final battle is the Gog/ Magog War. Satan is unleashed. Again, Gog is Satan. Gog means from under the roof. Magog means "out from under the roof". Gog refers to Satan as he is captive, bound, kept as it were: under a roof. Magog refers to Satan being unloosed. As Magog, he bursts forth from where he had been bound, under the roof.
Finally, at the very end the devil - Satan, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. ~ Rev. 20:15.
After this battle, the New Jerusalem will come and no more tears will be shed.
Recap -
Gog is a spirit, Satan is the supreme anti-Christ spirit and the anti-Christ who takes the world stage is a man = the beast. So again in reviewing end times, we begin with the anti-Christ 'the beast' who is a man of fierce countenance who has Satan's supreme anti-Christ spirit. There is a covenant made with Israel and the temple is built and the anti-Christ sits there causing the ‘abomination of desolation’.
After 3 and 1/2 years, the Lord Jesus Christ comes and then we have the (Armageddon) and the Rapture happens where we meet Christ in the cloud - this marks the end of the seven year tribulation. Just then, Satan 'a fallen cherubim - the supreme anti-Christ spirit' is chained; and the anti-Christ/man ‘the beast’ is thrown into the lake of fire along with the false prophet and then the Millennium begins.
After one thousand years, Satan is released from the pit, the Gog/Magog battle takes place and after that...Satan is also thrown into the lake of fire where the beast 'anti-Christ' and the false prophet already are and the New Jerusalem comes down as heaven and earth are joined.
John ~ Firstly, the Gog / Magog War is not going to happen now. Gog is not the anti-Christ. Gog is Satan. And, Satan is a fallen cherubim who is the supreme anti-Christ spirit = against God. There is going to be a final anti-Christ = the beast who is the last one. This anti-Christ is coming as a man in the flesh.he will be indwelt by the spirit of the evil one, the dragon gives him authority.
The Gog Magog War happens at the end of the thousand year 'millennium' which is Christ's rule on earth. During that reign, Satan is however, bound in the pit at this end time. Satan is released from his prison and attempts to over throw God from His Holy Mountain to sit in the temple as God. This is the Gog Magog War.
Me ~ What led you to arrive at that conclusion?
John ~ It is simple. Gog is not the anti-Christ. He is Satan. The anti-Christ is an 'end time' man who is filled of the anti-Christ spirit... against God. The anti-Christ appears at the end of the world age which looks like now is the time ripe for his taking a world stage. This man is going to come from the area from Assyria. He will gain political and military power in the Middle East. He then proceeds to get more power when ten rulers give over their authority to him. At some point, he makes a covenant with many nations one being Israel which says that Israel will be left alone and be safe.
From the moment of the signing of that covenant, until thereafter a period of three and half years will pass, and he breaks this covenant and attacks Israel and he succeeds entering the Temple which was built earlier during that time from the signing until the three and a half years, and places an image of himself in the Temple which speaks and tells everyone to worship the beast - which he is = the anti-Christ. His mark will be required by all people to accept in order to buy and sell.
A lot of Jews and Christians will refuse to do so. Many Jews will flee to the mountains of Jordan and be safe there. And so he will turn his persecutions against Christians.
Then at some point, the day of the Lord happens when Christ returns and nearly destroys the earth entirely (Armageddon) and at the end of this short period, the anti-Christ is overthrown by Christ when he returns and Christ sets up the Millennium Kingdom on earth. That is when the Satan is imprisoned in the pit for those thousand years. While the anti-Christ and the false prophet are put into the lake of fire. They are gone.
Let me say that the most important language used to support this is found in Rev. 20 where we read that Satan is thrown into the pit for one thousand years and just prior to that the anti-Christ and the false prophet were thrown into the lake of fire. "But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf... The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur." ~Rev. 19:20.
Back to the Gog Magog War which we find in Ezekiel 38-39, this does not fit anywhere in any time prior to all of that. Firstly, what we read in Ezekiel is a war that is not fought with modern weaponry. It is fought with weapons that today would be considered outdated and even ancient. This means that all modern weaponry is wiped out, in fact, during the thousand years, there will be no need of such weaponry. The final battle is the Gog/ Magog War. Satan is unleashed. Again, Gog is Satan. Gog means from under the roof. Magog means "out from under the roof". Gog refers to Satan as he is captive, bound, kept as it were: under a roof. Magog refers to Satan being unloosed. As Magog, he bursts forth from where he had been bound, under the roof.
Finally, at the very end the devil - Satan, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. ~ Rev. 20:15.
After this battle, the New Jerusalem will come and no more tears will be shed.
Recap -
Gog is a spirit, Satan is the supreme anti-Christ spirit and the anti-Christ who takes the world stage is a man = the beast. So again in reviewing end times, we begin with the anti-Christ 'the beast' who is a man of fierce countenance who has Satan's supreme anti-Christ spirit. There is a covenant made with Israel and the temple is built and the anti-Christ sits there causing the ‘abomination of desolation’.
After 3 and 1/2 years, the Lord Jesus Christ comes and then we have the (Armageddon) and the Rapture happens where we meet Christ in the cloud - this marks the end of the seven year tribulation. Just then, Satan 'a fallen cherubim - the supreme anti-Christ spirit' is chained; and the anti-Christ/man ‘the beast’ is thrown into the lake of fire along with the false prophet and then the Millennium begins.
After one thousand years, Satan is released from the pit, the Gog/Magog battle takes place and after that...Satan is also thrown into the lake of fire where the beast 'anti-Christ' and the false prophet already are and the New Jerusalem comes down as heaven and earth are joined.
Tuesday, February 16, 2016
Reigning in the Millennium with Jesus Christ!
*Readers note - If you have not read the Bible or you did but skipped reading the last chapter - Revelations, then don't read this post any further.
Me ~ Firstly, let me remind readers that we are in the end of times. We can say that the last days started after Christ was on earth and certainly we are reminded of this in Paul's Ministry. The end of times or those days that precede the great tribulation which has yet to start. An important aspect of the end times is the appearance of the beast and the mark of the beast. What will that look like and when will the mark of the beast be offered?
John ~ A few things as in conditions have to happen first. The technology to tag and track all human beings is the first condition and that condition has been met; though not fully implemented. Condition number two, the anti Christ has to be revealed as such and that has not been met. Condition number three, the false prophet has to create an image that will speak and demand that everyone take the mark or be killed. So, one of three conditions have been met.
Me ~ When those last conditions have been met, what will happen next?
John ~ Then those who take the mark will be worshiping the beast and will suffer physical consequences and finally eternal damnation. The physical consequences will be sores (The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image - Rev. 16:2) and among other things. They will wish to die but not be able to (Rev. 9:5-7). This is likely due to the alternations to the recipients DNA into a semi non human form - transhuman technology which is already on the horizon being. All technologies that prey on the flesh and offer the flesh in this fallen world a better life, a longer life or even eternal life.
As for those that refuse to take the mark as they proclaim to love and follow Jesus Christ the Messiah, many will be executed by beheading (I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years - Rev. 20:4). Others will escape and survive and some will be imprisoned. No one will be able to buy and sell without the mark and those that do not accept will be killed, have to live in hiding and or be marginalized as in severely limited or imprisoned.
"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years (the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended). This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years" ~ (Rev. 20: 4-6).
Me ~ When Christ returns, there will be the separation of the wheat and the tares which the Bible terms the rapture. The rapture does not come until Jesus Christ appears in the clouds where we (all those who believe and saved) will meet Him and then we together with Christ will come back to earth and reign with Him in the Spirit (the first resurrection) as it will His Kingdom on earth with Satan thrown into the pit for one thousand years. Who will we reign over in the Millennium, those left in the flesh?
John ~ Yes... the remaining people who came through the great tribulation in the flesh who did not take the mark nor worship the beast and were not Christian. These people of the Millennium will be of the flesh and not of the spirit as they came through the great tribulation in the flesh. They will come to faith and to worship Jesus (the true God) and they will repopulate the earth. Those who were caught up in the air with Christ (all believers who came to faith in Jesus Christ and were persecuted for not taking the mark nor worshiping the beast) will reign over them not in the flesh but made alive in Christ.
Me ~ Then what happens after the thousand year reign?
John ~ At the very end, Satan is loosed from the pit as another sin-filled humanity (sin was not eradicated as in not having run its full course) will attack Jerusalem and over throw God's Kingdom on earth. These people will be judged on their works and many thrown into the lake of fire to be destroyed. Then the New Jerusalem will come down from heaven and there will be a new heaven and new earth for All those who ever came to faith in Christ and all those will receive eternal life in Him! "The old earth will pass away and there is no longer any sea, only the holy city, the new Jerusalem. God Himself will be among us and will wipe away every tear and there will no longer be any death or mourning or crying or pain; the fist things have passed away" ~ Rev. 21.
Me ~ Yes, but why is Satan loosed at all and why does this attack on Jerusalem (after the thousand year reign) have to happen? And, why the 'new Jerusalem'? What is the reason for all this?
John ~ Because, those (unbelievers) who went into the Millennium in the flesh and or their children born in the Millennium not saved prior to Christ's second coming (who never took the mark or worshiped the beast and though not knowing Christ) will have to make a decision to come to Christ and to trust in the Lord God Jesus Christ and not their fleshly mind/body. Without Satan to galvanize them to get them to act on their sin in their hearts, there is no action until Satan is loosed (Rev. 20:7) and draw them to him and many millions will follow him to destroy Christ and His Kingdom on earth (though not yet the New Jerusalem) this Millennium 'thousand year reign'.
Me ~ Yes, but if we were ruling with Christ then why wouldn't be able to do just 'save' them, why bother with this loosing of Satan?
John ~ That is a very good question. Christ asked that in the garden when He first entered into this world. "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me ~ Matthew 26:39. It is not easy to answer. What we can come to understand is that sin 'flesh' must run its full course on earth - the virus in the program must finish and a test to see if it has must be executed.
We know that once Satan is freed after the thousand years, he will come out to deceive the nations again. We have to ask where did all the 'nations' come from since there will be few 'wheat' as in the elect who are caught up in the air and return to earth with Christ to reign with Him in the Spirit. That was explained early on... the nations in the Millennium will be people who came through the tribulation in the flesh. Again, sin as in corruption has to run it full course. This is necessary prior to the New Jerusalem. Hence, a great and final salvation is at hand.
I say a great salvation because this is the last great task of removing 'deleting' sin from the original program. The Bible tells us that in the end it will be like in the days of Noah. In Noah's time, sin had nearly taken over man and the entire earth through fully corrupted flesh whereby the Holy Spirit had no point of entry. Yet, Noah somehow was not so corrupted. However, sin still managed to come through. We know this as we read the story of Ham a son of Noah who finds his father in the tent in a certain way/position/ flesh and upon seeing it becomes corrupted by that sight, that image. We know it is the 'image' of something fleshly as the other brothers walk backwards to cover Noah so that they do not look upon it. From that moment on through Ham, corruption 'sin' works its way again on earth. From that time one, sin grows up until Jesus is born on earth, dies and is resurrected. And yet even that is not enough to conquer sin. Jesus the Son of God had to crucify the flesh so that our original state the spirit could be saved.
Hence, there is a need for a last great salvation, God has to show that sin - flesh was/is not just some kind of genetic corruption but moreover a spiritual corruption - a fallen condition in humanity, not due to a bad environment or lack of resource, or a bad leader/government, or a lack of wealth or opportunity. Christ's second coming has to show sin is endemic to human nature. These people (who will be reigned over) will live in paradise for one thousand years and still rebel, proving that sin is endemic and not the problem of environment or lack of things.
Those in the flesh in the Millennium will have to face the second death, but those who were of the first resurrection will not. "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years" ~ (Rev. 20:4- 6). Why does the second death have no power over them because they have already been transformed into their original state - the Spirit, God is Spirit and we were created in His image!
Finally, I want to say that this last great salvation with Satan loosed is to finally get rid of sin once and for all 'forever'. The old earth will pass away and there is no longer any sea, only the holy city, the new Jerusalem. God Himself will be among us and will wipe away every tear and there will no longer be any death or mourning or crying or pain; the fist things have passed away ~ Rev. 21. "It is for this reason, I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory... If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself" ~ 2 Timothy 2:10-13.
Yes, Christ does remove sin once and for always because He cannot deny Himself His Creation!
Me ~ Firstly, let me remind readers that we are in the end of times. We can say that the last days started after Christ was on earth and certainly we are reminded of this in Paul's Ministry. The end of times or those days that precede the great tribulation which has yet to start. An important aspect of the end times is the appearance of the beast and the mark of the beast. What will that look like and when will the mark of the beast be offered?
John ~ A few things as in conditions have to happen first. The technology to tag and track all human beings is the first condition and that condition has been met; though not fully implemented. Condition number two, the anti Christ has to be revealed as such and that has not been met. Condition number three, the false prophet has to create an image that will speak and demand that everyone take the mark or be killed. So, one of three conditions have been met.
Me ~ When those last conditions have been met, what will happen next?
John ~ Then those who take the mark will be worshiping the beast and will suffer physical consequences and finally eternal damnation. The physical consequences will be sores (The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly, festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped its image - Rev. 16:2) and among other things. They will wish to die but not be able to (Rev. 9:5-7). This is likely due to the alternations to the recipients DNA into a semi non human form - transhuman technology which is already on the horizon being. All technologies that prey on the flesh and offer the flesh in this fallen world a better life, a longer life or even eternal life.
As for those that refuse to take the mark as they proclaim to love and follow Jesus Christ the Messiah, many will be executed by beheading (I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years - Rev. 20:4). Others will escape and survive and some will be imprisoned. No one will be able to buy and sell without the mark and those that do not accept will be killed, have to live in hiding and or be marginalized as in severely limited or imprisoned.
"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years (the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended). This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years" ~ (Rev. 20: 4-6).
Me ~ When Christ returns, there will be the separation of the wheat and the tares which the Bible terms the rapture. The rapture does not come until Jesus Christ appears in the clouds where we (all those who believe and saved) will meet Him and then we together with Christ will come back to earth and reign with Him in the Spirit (the first resurrection) as it will His Kingdom on earth with Satan thrown into the pit for one thousand years. Who will we reign over in the Millennium, those left in the flesh?
John ~ Yes... the remaining people who came through the great tribulation in the flesh who did not take the mark nor worship the beast and were not Christian. These people of the Millennium will be of the flesh and not of the spirit as they came through the great tribulation in the flesh. They will come to faith and to worship Jesus (the true God) and they will repopulate the earth. Those who were caught up in the air with Christ (all believers who came to faith in Jesus Christ and were persecuted for not taking the mark nor worshiping the beast) will reign over them not in the flesh but made alive in Christ.
Me ~ Then what happens after the thousand year reign?
John ~ At the very end, Satan is loosed from the pit as another sin-filled humanity (sin was not eradicated as in not having run its full course) will attack Jerusalem and over throw God's Kingdom on earth. These people will be judged on their works and many thrown into the lake of fire to be destroyed. Then the New Jerusalem will come down from heaven and there will be a new heaven and new earth for All those who ever came to faith in Christ and all those will receive eternal life in Him! "The old earth will pass away and there is no longer any sea, only the holy city, the new Jerusalem. God Himself will be among us and will wipe away every tear and there will no longer be any death or mourning or crying or pain; the fist things have passed away" ~ Rev. 21.
Me ~ Yes, but why is Satan loosed at all and why does this attack on Jerusalem (after the thousand year reign) have to happen? And, why the 'new Jerusalem'? What is the reason for all this?
John ~ Because, those (unbelievers) who went into the Millennium in the flesh and or their children born in the Millennium not saved prior to Christ's second coming (who never took the mark or worshiped the beast and though not knowing Christ) will have to make a decision to come to Christ and to trust in the Lord God Jesus Christ and not their fleshly mind/body. Without Satan to galvanize them to get them to act on their sin in their hearts, there is no action until Satan is loosed (Rev. 20:7) and draw them to him and many millions will follow him to destroy Christ and His Kingdom on earth (though not yet the New Jerusalem) this Millennium 'thousand year reign'.
Me ~ Yes, but if we were ruling with Christ then why wouldn't be able to do just 'save' them, why bother with this loosing of Satan?
John ~ That is a very good question. Christ asked that in the garden when He first entered into this world. "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me ~ Matthew 26:39. It is not easy to answer. What we can come to understand is that sin 'flesh' must run its full course on earth - the virus in the program must finish and a test to see if it has must be executed.
We know that once Satan is freed after the thousand years, he will come out to deceive the nations again. We have to ask where did all the 'nations' come from since there will be few 'wheat' as in the elect who are caught up in the air and return to earth with Christ to reign with Him in the Spirit. That was explained early on... the nations in the Millennium will be people who came through the tribulation in the flesh. Again, sin as in corruption has to run it full course. This is necessary prior to the New Jerusalem. Hence, a great and final salvation is at hand.
I say a great salvation because this is the last great task of removing 'deleting' sin from the original program. The Bible tells us that in the end it will be like in the days of Noah. In Noah's time, sin had nearly taken over man and the entire earth through fully corrupted flesh whereby the Holy Spirit had no point of entry. Yet, Noah somehow was not so corrupted. However, sin still managed to come through. We know this as we read the story of Ham a son of Noah who finds his father in the tent in a certain way/position/ flesh and upon seeing it becomes corrupted by that sight, that image. We know it is the 'image' of something fleshly as the other brothers walk backwards to cover Noah so that they do not look upon it. From that moment on through Ham, corruption 'sin' works its way again on earth. From that time one, sin grows up until Jesus is born on earth, dies and is resurrected. And yet even that is not enough to conquer sin. Jesus the Son of God had to crucify the flesh so that our original state the spirit could be saved.
Hence, there is a need for a last great salvation, God has to show that sin - flesh was/is not just some kind of genetic corruption but moreover a spiritual corruption - a fallen condition in humanity, not due to a bad environment or lack of resource, or a bad leader/government, or a lack of wealth or opportunity. Christ's second coming has to show sin is endemic to human nature. These people (who will be reigned over) will live in paradise for one thousand years and still rebel, proving that sin is endemic and not the problem of environment or lack of things.
Those in the flesh in the Millennium will have to face the second death, but those who were of the first resurrection will not. "Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years" ~ (Rev. 20:4- 6). Why does the second death have no power over them because they have already been transformed into their original state - the Spirit, God is Spirit and we were created in His image!
Finally, I want to say that this last great salvation with Satan loosed is to finally get rid of sin once and for all 'forever'. The old earth will pass away and there is no longer any sea, only the holy city, the new Jerusalem. God Himself will be among us and will wipe away every tear and there will no longer be any death or mourning or crying or pain; the fist things have passed away ~ Rev. 21. "It is for this reason, I endure all things for the sake of those who are chosen, so that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus and with it eternal glory... If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself" ~ 2 Timothy 2:10-13.
Yes, Christ does remove sin once and for always because He cannot deny Himself His Creation!
Thursday, February 11, 2016
Hard Wired for God!
Me ~ Did you hear/read that the human mind is really... as in 'actually' hard wired to believe?
John ~ Yes, I read about that but then no one had to tell me. Once you are born again, there is no turning back, there is no man made trick or equation or technology that could change one's/my mind. Does that mean I was hard wired for God since birth or re-birth? I think that the wiring process is life long but there definitely are the basic threads/wires right from the very beginning, in the seed. In being born again, is that wiring process over or finished? No, but it has moved up to the next level, like a computer chip with layered integrating systems.
Me ~ I agree. But for our readers, what can you say about being hard wired for God?
John ~ Everybody these days is into science; as if 'science' is outside the mind, outside of God and His Social Imagination. Science is a tool given to man (by God) for understanding His (God's) creation which 'we' man lives in. God informs us on a need to know basis. His information is the same today as it was yesterday and will be tomorrow. As far as I know, man's science is always changing depending on which men/women are in charge or making the observation of what he/she thinks.
Me ~ Why is that? Isn't it because science could be evil?
John ~ You are right. That is why we must be as discerning as possible and that is only possible being in relationship with the Holy Spirit God the Father and Son through His Word the Bible. Yet, I can offer in His - God's defense, an interesting 'scientific' discovery that can only be from Him.
According to Pascal Boyer of Washington University in St. Louis, research suggests our cognitive systems evolved in a way that makes believing easy. One can find a 2008 essay for the journal Nature in which Boyer wrote that several features of the human brain predispose us to religious belief. Among the psychological tendencies complemented or satiated by religious beliefs are the abilities to relate to unreal or unseen figures, (note the word 'relate'; yes we can and do relate to figures who are now unseen, such as past presidents, scientists, teachers, and parents/grandparents) a desire to avoid danger and the ability to be a part of and maintain massive social structures. Boyer’s research also suggests “that people best remember stories that include a combination of counterintuitive physical feats and plausibly human psychological features."
Boyer contends that there is not one part of the brain solely responsible for religious belief, but rather that the particular overlap of several cognitive systems renders religious beliefs desirable to, and easily accepted by, the human mind. This also means that if/when we opt for atheism, we are going against the grain so to speak forcing the brain/mind to work hard in fact to battle against what our minds are generally inclined and well-equipped to do ~ believe!
*Stand up for God the Creator of all things seen and unseen. FYI- Einstein wasn't an atheist.
John ~ Yes, I read about that but then no one had to tell me. Once you are born again, there is no turning back, there is no man made trick or equation or technology that could change one's/my mind. Does that mean I was hard wired for God since birth or re-birth? I think that the wiring process is life long but there definitely are the basic threads/wires right from the very beginning, in the seed. In being born again, is that wiring process over or finished? No, but it has moved up to the next level, like a computer chip with layered integrating systems.
Me ~ I agree. But for our readers, what can you say about being hard wired for God?
John ~ Everybody these days is into science; as if 'science' is outside the mind, outside of God and His Social Imagination. Science is a tool given to man (by God) for understanding His (God's) creation which 'we' man lives in. God informs us on a need to know basis. His information is the same today as it was yesterday and will be tomorrow. As far as I know, man's science is always changing depending on which men/women are in charge or making the observation of what he/she thinks.
Me ~ Why is that? Isn't it because science could be evil?
John ~ You are right. That is why we must be as discerning as possible and that is only possible being in relationship with the Holy Spirit God the Father and Son through His Word the Bible. Yet, I can offer in His - God's defense, an interesting 'scientific' discovery that can only be from Him.
According to Pascal Boyer of Washington University in St. Louis, research suggests our cognitive systems evolved in a way that makes believing easy. One can find a 2008 essay for the journal Nature in which Boyer wrote that several features of the human brain predispose us to religious belief. Among the psychological tendencies complemented or satiated by religious beliefs are the abilities to relate to unreal or unseen figures, (note the word 'relate'; yes we can and do relate to figures who are now unseen, such as past presidents, scientists, teachers, and parents/grandparents) a desire to avoid danger and the ability to be a part of and maintain massive social structures. Boyer’s research also suggests “that people best remember stories that include a combination of counterintuitive physical feats and plausibly human psychological features."
Boyer contends that there is not one part of the brain solely responsible for religious belief, but rather that the particular overlap of several cognitive systems renders religious beliefs desirable to, and easily accepted by, the human mind. This also means that if/when we opt for atheism, we are going against the grain so to speak forcing the brain/mind to work hard in fact to battle against what our minds are generally inclined and well-equipped to do ~ believe!
*Stand up for God the Creator of all things seen and unseen. FYI- Einstein wasn't an atheist.
Sunday, February 7, 2016
Conflict in the Human Mind ~ Consciousness in Opposition to Unconsciousness
Me ~ Human consciousness appears to be in opposition to the unconscious aspect of nature and the universe. How is that problematic for the Christian and the problem of evil?
John ~ Immanuel Kant said that the mind does not conform to things, rather things conform to the mind. Why or How? It is through our conscious state of being. There is no other way that we know the world in which we exist. In our consciousness we observe and experience what is called sentient existence. That means that human conscious beings recognize that there are other things in the world which are not sentient. This causes a conflict in the mind as those things which are not sentient appear to posses immortality while sentient beings are mortal. This is the conflict in the human mind and yet it should not be so in the Christian mind.
Me ~ What do you mean?
John ~ The universe seems absurd until we understand that the absurdity was brought about because of our corruption by disobeying our Creator right from the start. Mortality seems absurd due to the fact that the universe seems pointless as a non-conscious entity and that is absurd. So, the absurdity of life is a struggle to us as to why we are aware of this. Why are we even able to think about the absurdity of the universe which itself seems like an absurd discussion or contemplation.
As convoluted as that answer is or appears to be, our consciousness appears to be outside of a greater whole 'reality' of what a full conscious being should be. Yes, that is what we are aware of and have been since the fall. That is why I say that such conflict should not exist in the Christian mind as having embraced Jesus Christ we have acknowledged that our consciousness here and now is a lie and that our real conscious being is yet to come and that is only possible through death to this world.
The problem of evil is also the problem of sin. Essentially, the problem of evil is the outcome of original sin. That being a thorn in our flesh as Paul saw it. It reminds us that the consciousness we have of/in this world is a lie. That lie being a non 'fully' consciousness. The lie is a veil, it is a pair of eyeglasses through which we try to understand our true being which is with our Creator in Paradise, a true reality as it is without sin, without evil.
Me ~ What is consciousness?
John ~ It is not that we are conscious of this world and our person as in by ourselves... We are conscious because He lives. Consciousness is God streaming information into us and through us. It is our choice to use that information for His glory! By doing so, our choice is for not only ourselves but our fellow man whose consciousness is also of Christ.
John ~ Immanuel Kant said that the mind does not conform to things, rather things conform to the mind. Why or How? It is through our conscious state of being. There is no other way that we know the world in which we exist. In our consciousness we observe and experience what is called sentient existence. That means that human conscious beings recognize that there are other things in the world which are not sentient. This causes a conflict in the mind as those things which are not sentient appear to posses immortality while sentient beings are mortal. This is the conflict in the human mind and yet it should not be so in the Christian mind.
Me ~ What do you mean?
John ~ The universe seems absurd until we understand that the absurdity was brought about because of our corruption by disobeying our Creator right from the start. Mortality seems absurd due to the fact that the universe seems pointless as a non-conscious entity and that is absurd. So, the absurdity of life is a struggle to us as to why we are aware of this. Why are we even able to think about the absurdity of the universe which itself seems like an absurd discussion or contemplation.
As convoluted as that answer is or appears to be, our consciousness appears to be outside of a greater whole 'reality' of what a full conscious being should be. Yes, that is what we are aware of and have been since the fall. That is why I say that such conflict should not exist in the Christian mind as having embraced Jesus Christ we have acknowledged that our consciousness here and now is a lie and that our real conscious being is yet to come and that is only possible through death to this world.
The problem of evil is also the problem of sin. Essentially, the problem of evil is the outcome of original sin. That being a thorn in our flesh as Paul saw it. It reminds us that the consciousness we have of/in this world is a lie. That lie being a non 'fully' consciousness. The lie is a veil, it is a pair of eyeglasses through which we try to understand our true being which is with our Creator in Paradise, a true reality as it is without sin, without evil.
Me ~ What is consciousness?
John ~ It is not that we are conscious of this world and our person as in by ourselves... We are conscious because He lives. Consciousness is God streaming information into us and through us. It is our choice to use that information for His glory! By doing so, our choice is for not only ourselves but our fellow man whose consciousness is also of Christ.
Sunday, January 31, 2016
Becoming like Christ and Ruling Over God's Creation!
Me ~ What is the destiny of the Christian?
John ~ Our destiny is before us. Reading the Bible, God's Word is where we learn what we must do. Jesus Christ was quite clear about our destiny when he said that we must follow Him giving up things of this world and even family as in putting God first~ Matthew 19:28. We must put God first (have no other God (s) before Me) and He must be first in our heart and our trust in God must be complete; and not worry about things or family as they are in His care. In this way, we can follow Him by trusting in God.
Me ~ But, how is that possible?
John ~ All things are possible in God. Paul reminded us that we must be strong in the Lord and in
his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand
against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the
spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” ~ Ephesians 6: 10-12.
Me ~ Is that how we become like Christ?
John ~ Yes, and remember that becoming we must take on that Armour and begin to lead a Christ filled life. Paul admonished the early church for suing each other in
court ~1 COR 6. He did so by reminding them that they would one day rule over
angels and God’s universe ~ 1 COR 6. Paul understood the Elohim were the divine
council (Psalm 82) made up of god-like created beings that were given authority
to administer and rule over Yaweh’s creation. However, at the end of the Flood
they were given authority to spread humankind across the planet. They failed to
do this and instead got mankind to worship them and keep them in one place and
make a religion and temple to them. God ended this crime by creating many languages
(Fall of the tower of Babel=Babylon) and then assigning each human language
group to be under the authority and to worship these Elohim. God then created a new human group that would
worship Him and to whom he would reveal himself. These became the Hebrews. The Elohim also considered angels as well as
demons and including foreign nations (1 Kgs 11:33, Deut 32:17, Sam 28:13, Gen
35:7) who disobeyed God were judged by him to one day die as men. So, the
end-game in all this is that Saved humanity
= those redeemed and brought back to God through
the Son (including those once under the Elohim known as ‘Gentiles’ and or all
in Christ, would one day replace these Elohim (Greek -kosmokrators * devils and
his demons, Lord of this world) and rule over the angels (as Paul told us [God speaking
through Paul]); including all Elohim ‘kosmokrators, and all God’s creation. So,
our destiny is to return to Paradise becoming like Christ to rule and
administer God’s creation.
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